kerosene says
16 years ago
Godwin's law in real life: Barney Frank Confronts Woman At Townhall Comparing Obama To Hitler
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Cyberfox says
16 years ago
Good rebuttle! but this health care reform thing in the US is quite heated.
kerosene says
16 years ago
yeahhh, it's bringing out all the morons. "death camps!" "nazis" "CANADA!"
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
I read up on why its so polarized! They dont want don't want the gov to contol and admisister the health. why not? it would help
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kerosene says
16 years ago
a LOT of it is being exaggerated in terrible ways
kerosene says
16 years ago
the gov is proposing universal health INSURANCE.
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
Whats wrong with that?
kerosene says
16 years ago
nothing at all. the canadian health rep said it best - it's not right to penalize those who need health care the most for not having ins.
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
It gives people a chance to be coverd. from rich to poor
kerosene says
16 years ago
the problem is that our healthcare costs rose as quickly as our housing costs if not faster
kerosene says
16 years ago
so cost of service is in no way proportional to income
kerosene says
16 years ago
thing is - people can choose not to buy houses. people CANT choose to not receive health care.
kerosene says
16 years ago
so nothing drives the prices down. we're by the balls by the insurance companies and they're in the pocket with the doctors.
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
Oh so thats what it boils down too
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
See Sicko?
kerosene says
16 years ago
what gov is saying is not eliminating current insurance - but creating a public insurance policy to force non gov ins companies to compete
kerosene says
16 years ago
now the details on how THAT works is a bit complicated. but it's not suggesting death squads or anything of the sort. those comments are
kerosene says
16 years ago
concerned with "end of life couciling". basically when you're diagnosed with a terminal ailment - insurance covers your meetings with a
kerosene says
16 years ago
doctor to discuss your concerns and decisions about how you'll be handled
kerosene says
16 years ago
this works a lot like a "living will" only you have a doctor there to help you make informed decisions.
kerosene says
16 years ago
THAT is hardly a death squad. that's providing a service that current insurance ALREADY covers.
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
I dont see anything bad about this reform
kerosene says
16 years ago
it can be amazing if done properly. it can be disasterous to the economy if they arent careful though.
kerosene says
16 years ago
insurance companies employ people too - we dont want to put them out of business- but we want them to slim down their profit margins
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
I know
kerosene says
16 years ago
"price realization" not a "recession"
Cyberfox says
16 years ago
the insurance companies have the monopoly on healh care in the states
kerosene says
16 years ago
pretty much. they can mandate their own prices.
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