ThoughtWrong
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The *official* Plurkshop #10 thread! **Unique Designs in the Plurk World**
pritcharddesign
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hi thoughtwrong
hi thoughtwrong - thanks for hosting this topic!
Konstantino
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Do we say we should qualify or something?
ThoughtWrong
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everyone, started a lil' early, another 5 mins or so and we will get started
Bakla
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hello
Are we taking roll? *raises hand* "Present."
"thanks" to zenelements for making is plurk box larger with CSS code 
*raises hand*
Bakla
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Present! 
*raises hand as well* then thinks he had better be here, lol
ThoughtWrong
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so are we all ready?
ツ Mike
is
Hi All
pritcharddesign
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excuse me, what is that great image on your profile Thoughtwrong?
ThoughtWrong
asks
or do we need to give time for a few more people to roll in?
Charles, I say go for it. Folks will catch up, they always do. 
ThoughtWrong
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pritcharddesign its as I lay dyings cover for frail worlds collapse
ThoughtWrong
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ok take it away thoughtwrong
ThoughtWrong
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Hi everyone, I am thoughtwrong 
and welcome to the Plurkshop on Unique Designs in the Plurk World!
and welcome to the Plurkshop on Unique Designs in the Plurk World!
Today we will be discussing what has seemed to be one of the most controversial topics over the past week on Plurk!
The custom CSS design and inplementation on Plurk profiles have been compared to "Myspace for the microblogging world"
This 'in my opinion' is most definately not the case.
ThoughtWrong
says
however, this is Plurk! So its not really about *just* my opinion now is it?
ThoughtWrong
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so before we get into comments/questions
I have compiled a short list of links I would like to share before we get started just as a refrence for the conversations in this thread.
Is Plurk the MySpace of Microblogging? - The seemingly controversial mashable post by waynesutton
uberdev
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*rolling in* thoughtwrong
I Saw It Through The Plurkline - Plurks blog post made yesterday on the CSS topic.
zenelements
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to admit, I was a little concerned the mySpace effect would take a hold of Plurk but there are a few points to this...
http://recordings.talksh... - where we all discussed a little about this topic as well.
"seemingly" ?
zenelements
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1. that everyone is entitled to their own crazy CSS Profile fun
Plurk CSS -Great tips from our very own ZenElements on the Plurk CSS and how to use it to your advantage.
zenelements
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2. How often do we find ourselves on each others actual profile as supposed to just our own timelines?
groups.google.com/projec... plurk (Project Plurk) - our google group for an open source custom css generator
Eric Odom
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thoughtwrong your profile looks great, but messed up in my res www.plurkpix.com/pix/Hm....
Eric Odom
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I'm working on my css as we speak... thoughts?
ThoughtWrong
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ericodom usually I am just thinking about myself and what I like to see, not sure why but to be honest it should work on any resolution
zenelements
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does get that same smaller picture with my res, yeah.. anything over 1024 I think gets the blue background
ZenElements that's exactly my view; YOU are the one that looks at your page the most
zenelements
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nice city lights!!
ThoughtWrong
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Yes, That is the next topic I wanted to discuss, your profile, is just that YOURS!
zenelements
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for EASIER response space, use this CSS: #input_small { height: 75px; }
zenelements
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agreeing with you thoughtwrong
ericodom being a chicago girl, I think i'm biased.
ThoughtWrong
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you are he one who has to view it 90% of the time, be sure however that you make the text readable so new pleeps can find out who you are..
Bakla
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Exactly! Your Profile is just yours. And there are some who believe that having an "awesome" profile will attract more friends/fans
ThoughtWrong
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..without too much eye strain 
🏳️🌈Teeg 🏳️⚧️
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shoot! Dh has decided he's ready to head to dinner *now* instead of in an hour. Will look forward to reading when we get back!
Bakla
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as to why they would want to add more friends/fans is beyond me though
ThoughtWrong
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Teeg , take care
Eric Odom
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as long as plurk doesn't allow music on page load it will never be like myspace imho
ThoughtWrong
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More Pleeps = more conversation, yes it can get hectic but it can also be worth it
zenelements
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hope you have a good supper Teeg
pritcharddesign
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I like that I'm looking at a representation of me while plurking
uberdev
was
never a fan of plurks color schemes.
Connie
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How complicated is it to customize your CSS? I know just enough HTML to be dangerous.
zenelements
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very accurate point ericodem
ThoughtWrong
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asks why uberdev?
zenelements
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music never spreads to Plurk outwith linked videos, etc...
eric Ummmm .. what if I said I found a way to do an <embed> tag?
pritcharddesign
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Connie follow one of the available tutorials or get someone to help you
ericodom I have a way of embedding a flash mp3 player now, but for the same reasons you mention, have not released or used the code
since it is mostly just a parsing bug on the part of A-Team. I should actually file it as a bug
OMGLaShae
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CSS custom profiles are just like clothes, like pritcharddesign says it's a representation of her
I understand the principles of CSS, just have little experience using it. Are the tutorials on the Plurk blog?
ThoughtWrong
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connie CSS is definately easy however fo people whom just do not want to or dont have the time to lear...
...we have put together the google group to help out all the pleeps
uberdev
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thoughtwrong, plurks colors to me really reak of vegas. i'm a big fan of simplicity
ah, cool.
Plurk's basic color schemes leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
ThoughtWrong
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the CSS project will be benificial because it encompasses the true meaning of plurk, *togetherness* by having everyone work on an open
would be great if we can gather links for tutorials here or in the recap on plurkshops.com
pritcharddesign
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your google group link is *404*
ThoughtWrong
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source program and then putting it on a website for all other pleeps to use
connie I need RED, dangit
ThoughtWrong
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here is a full CSS beginners tutorial this one is easy to follow and is how I learned
ThoughtWrong
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pritcharddesign
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cool. thanks
uberdev
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anyone who doesn't like custom css in plurk, do you apply the same philosophy in twitter?
zenelements
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w3schools is a great resource for anyone looking to get a slightly more indepth look into CSS
ThoughtWrong
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he wants to know what everyones views are on the Waynesutton post at mashable, how did that one go over with everyone?
Nobody *has* to use custom CSS, they can use Plurk as is.
pritcharddesign
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I think a personalized profile page also reveals more about a person, making friending decisions easier
the proverbial lead balloon ... even with this mama
ThoughtWrong
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very true connie , it is most definately your choice 
with Wayne's mama
OMGLaShae
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if it was a move for controversy to get people to look at plurk
ThoughtWrong
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that was a funny post, she said "he stepped in it"
I had much less issue with his comments on CSS than I did with his blanket statements about the community. i'm defensive of my pleeps.
ThoughtWrong
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that controversy can be good but how do you view myspace right now ItyBites ?
pritcharddesign
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mashable post was a *verrry* narrow view of plurk
connie that video is classic
uberdev
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there is some validity comparing plurk and myspace. it seems the community for both is more homogenous. twitter stills seems very techy
LSFloyd
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Totally agree ...no music please
OMGLaShae
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I don't really use myspace too many problems
ThoughtWrong
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yes but on the same token comparing us to myspace, most people view myspace as the teeny bopper hangout of the internet
pritcharddesign
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ok, so some profiles on plurk may go tacky. There are people with tacky taste. What're you gonna do? Ban them?
and they view myspace as spammy and, in many instances, sleazy -- because there were no safeguards when it debuted.
zenelements
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I agree the two communities are quite different really uberdev.
No, pritcharddesign. When I see tacky profiles it may cause me to question whether I friend them or not, but it's their prerogative.
pritcharddesign
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so it's more about what kind of people will be attracted then the actual functionality
ThoughtWrong
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that was just a bad comparison, via myspace to plurk.
zenelements
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I have to say though, one of my strongest views is that we are not often 'on' each others profiles but our own timeline/profile.
Bakla
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Tacky taste is universally relative. If you hate the tackiness, remove as friend
pritcharddesign
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I agree connie
The problem with Wayne's criticism, and he had to know this in spite of his disclaimers, is that in the circles he is in, myspace is
considered a social network wasteland. So even the hint of comparing it to Plurk made the post inflammatory.
pritcharddesign
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ThoughtWrong
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So moving on..
pritcharddesign
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right Connie and he went further by almost categorizing plurkers
ThoughtWrong
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how do you feel about the Plurk reaction to this post and the ensuing blog post they put up in response?
I haven't seen the blog post in response. Link, anyone?
ThoughtWrong
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its on the plurk blog
thanks
ThoughtWrong
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also in the links at the top of the thread connie
uberdev
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you like a person's perspective, comments, contribution to community but not their plurk page style. friend or no friend?
ツ Mike
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uberdev, I would friend. I'm rarely on a persons profile to judge and if they are interesting and awesome themselves, I'm happy.
uberdev - friend. The problem is that I might not have the basis for making that determination outside their profile page if no interaction
pritcharddesign
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probably friend, but depends on what the plurk page shows
ThoughtWrong
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it is amazing how Plurk developers take the time to read and respond "in their own unique way of course" to what people on their service are
saying
pritcharddesign
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that's exactly why we're on plurk. not to just post links.
Bakla
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ubedev I would friend. It's their content I'm after. Besides, I wont be seeing their plurk page on my timeline.
pritcharddesign
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oops, sorry, you said developers
pritcharddesign
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I agree. The A-team has a great attitude
uberdev
asks
connie understood, but also the benefit of plurk is seeing people comment on your plurks who aren't on your friends list yet
I would friend uberdev, my judgement of people is based on quality of them being themselves.
even if i dont like a certian design they pick that is not my call, it is theirs. We are all unique
uberdev
hates
getting his qualifiers confused...
ThoughtWrong
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LOL pritcharddesign
bloggeries
is
uberdev Your affinity for someone should have no bearing on their css imo. 90% of the time you're on your own background anyways.
uberdev That's one of the things I like about Plurk. I add people as friends after I've been in conversations with them.
And you're right, at that point CSS would have little to do with my decision, unless it was offensive in some way.
ThoughtWrong
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bloggeries , didnt see you sneak in. My timeline been moving kinda slow in this thread
pritcharddesign
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agree Connie. I like finding new people in other people's threads.
uberdev
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what about the viral effect of sharing your profile? you have a community w/ a focus - ngo. spread your profile = spread word for non prof
pritcharddesign
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you can friend people based on their comments, not the little in their profile
pritcharddesign it's kind of like "try before you buy."
OMGLaShae
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first impressions happen usually before I get to their profile page
ThoughtWrong
wonders
what is everyones favorite CSS snippit of things they can change in their timeline so far?
ツ Mike
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people need to work on their images. They need to be at least 1600 px wide and not huge in weight
specifically to update the size of your response textbox --- #input_small { height: 75px; } --- I've found this extremely useful.
Does the Google group have any CSS templates we can adapt for our own use?
Bakla
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ZenElements it is indeed very useful! thanks! just edited mine
pritcharddesign
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ability to change verb bkgds .q_hopes { background: #5c4294; }
OMGLaShae
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uberdev prof. and non-prof. - it's a good way to brand your company or yourself - done tastefully of course
zenelements
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not as yet but they are coming I beleive connie. I have a basic format of some Plurk:CSS on my blog just now though if it'd help.
Connie
asks
pritcharddesign Can we add our own verbs or just change the colors of the ones they aleady have?
ThoughtWrong
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that it dose not atm connie, I plan to get some up and get going on the project monday but its been a hectic weekend thus far
zenelements
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that one too pritcharddesign bye bye 'lovely pink'
bye bye 'lovely pink'
uberdev
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well, i've really enjoyed the conversation here, but gotta go. everyone have a terrific evening!!!
That is great thoughtwrong. The generosity of the Plurkommunity will help those of us who are coding-challenged.
pritcharddesign
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pritcharddesign
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bye uberdev
OMGLaShae
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which elements would you suggest a CSS noob play with?
bye uberdev
uberdev
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bye pritcharddesign
is trying the plurkify room now as he was having technical issues w/ plurk updating
bye bye for now uberdev
uberdev
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uberdev
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Anyone have any suggestions on basic startup themes you all may like for your own plurk pages?
Connie
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thoughtwrong Do we need to switch to the blog/chat? Plurk does seem to be slow updating.
thoughtwrong I don't think the plurkify room is working anymore since they updated back end stuff
I just switched up to plurkify rooms connie , a little slow but works better than the non updating plurk atm
Okay, let me know if you want to switch to blog/chat.
I'm sticking here. Plurkify is too hard for me to read and doesn't autorefresh.
on plurkify now
hmm, go ahead and switch to the blog/chat cvonnie, having issues o this end now as well
okay, give me 60 seconds .. or less
ThoughtWrong
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no problems
zenelements
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ItyBites - I would suggest good starting point is background colours, moving onto backgrounds graphics after that.
Here's the URL to continue the chat: plurkshops.com/?p=21
This is a Meebo widget embedded into Plurkshops blog. If you have a Meebo account, log in so your name displays properly.
cool. never been in plurkify
zenelements
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ItyBites, then you can look at font colours, font-type, etc.. let the fun role on w3schools is a great place to get a further insite to
w3schools is a great place to get a further insite to
ツ Mike
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ditto Zen
very cool thanks ZenElements
plurkshops.com/?p=21 for Meebo chat
ThoughtWrong
thinks
that he cannot login on the blog so we may stay here
zenelements
says
guess she's a little too late
I will be mining this plurkshop over the next week, playing with my CSS
ThoughtWrong
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no problems yoonamaniac we are still here getting our CSS on
ThoughtWrong
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what are your thought?
ThoughtWrong
feels
ItyBites should keep up with the google group as well, we may have some tutorials coming there also
Sorry, the Meebo chat is not working properly either. I think we're just going to have to tough it out with a slow Plurk update.
ThoughtWrong
thinks
toughing it out is cool, I am down for slow conversation vs no conversation
sorry thoughtwrong
zenelements
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I am going to work on some tutorials for the googleGroup/Plurk
Some tutorials and CSS templates that we could adapt to our own use would be awesome.
I know I could learn CSS and do it from scratch, but I really don't have the time to invest in doing that.
ThoughtWrong
is
definately going to be working on this in the next week
ThoughtWrong
loves
the idea of pleeps helping pleeps.
OMGLaShae
thinks
this could be a good intro to CSS for folks who don't have hosting and find WP and other places too intimidating
zenelements
has
some plans to get these things up for the googleGroup and will try to do so sooner too connie 
ThoughtWrong
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so too ItyBites
for sure. Thanks Thoughtwrong!
ツ Mike
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Thanks www.plurk.com/user/ZenEl... for sharing your wisdom !
ThoughtWrong
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I've learned alot since joining plurk
well, not changing my own profile because I like things clean and simple, and what they have suits me just fine
Plurk has turned out to be a great place for sharing knowledge - but that's a reflection on the people as well as the platform.
ThoughtWrong
thinks
Plurk is a place for learning and sharing and helping others, I love all my friends and would bend over backwards for em' 
zenelements
has
to donder off a little moment but great PlurkShop today thoughtwrong and was intersting to hear peoples views on things too!
and I don't give a rat's tiny ass how tacky others make their profiles to be since I rarely have to see them
Thanks for joining us, ZenElements
good for you yoonamaniac
ThoughtWrong
feels
we may want to wrap this up now as it has been an hour coming and plurk seems sick tonight
BTW Thoughtwrong, nice haircut.
quite frankly, people put tacky pictures as their avatars, and really, who cares?
LOL yoonamaniac - we talked about that earlier. You rarely view anyone else's profile.
an hour goes quick! Thanks again Thoughtwrong!
ThoughtWrong
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thanks, I am really conceited and wanted to show it off, lol
and everybody else!
Thoughtwrong, I think we should have part 2 of this conversation when the Google group is farther along.
ThoughtWrong
thinks
yoonamaniac hit the nail on the head, its all about what you like not the 5% that other pleeps spend on your profile
ツ Mike
asks
What is the code for increasing the height of the main plurk input?
ThoughtWrong
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that would be a great idea connie I will look foreward to that and maybe we can get more involvemet with plurk acting better.
I think it's just 'cause it's saturday night.
Yes, thoughtwrong Plurk has been slooooww tonight.
oh the responses are not updating timely 
yoonamaniac
was
wondering why nobody was replying
ThoughtWrong
says
hrrm...farho I would have to look through the CSS and see if I could hash it out
felt all alone and scared...
ThoughtWrong
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gimme a little while and I could PM you about it
thanks for hosting thoughtwrong and to all the pleeps a plurking tonight on Plurkshop #10
If you scroll back, Farho, you'll find a bit of code -- but I think it's for the text box where you respond.
ThoughtWrong
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thoughtwrong will you post a brief recap on MyPleeps? I can then copy it and post it on Plurkshops.com too
At the very beginning of this thread, thoughtwrong posted some links to a Google group where they are discussing the CSS.
ツ Mike
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I saw the response one above. I like it so much I want to change the main input
ThoughtWrong
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Thank you everyone for coming out, I gues I must close w/ my catch phrase, heh
go for it
ThoughtWrong
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I am thoughtwrong..and you've just been **PLEEPED**
Thank you for all your thoughts, Thoughtwrong. (who is usually thinkingright)
AmberCadabra I can do that. Am I authorized to post on plurkshops or will I need to be sending a copy to one of you alkl
connie thx
Later dudes and duddettes
thoughtwrong You can just go ahead and send it to me, I don't mind at all
am I late sorry I had company
ThoughtWrong
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k no problems, will get it up as soon as I can
ThoughtWrong
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topsurf its cool, we were having plurky problems tonight anyways
I guess so, oh well I will re read the thread and try to catch up
oh ok thoughtwrong
ツ Mike
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Thanks for hosting this plurkshop Charles!
Mova
wonders
what this is?
gotta go. Thanks for the great tips and info everyone!
thekidds
is
so sad she missed the party but got lots of good info and wrote down all the links to peruse later. Thanks thoughtwrong for doing this!
babybell21
needs
to understand this sooner or later.