only likes incredibly open-minded, "nominal" Christians Actually...I only like open-minded people of any denomination

becoming more willing to call people out when they profess silly beliefs now

I like this starting one-liner: "I believe in 1 god less than you do"

avoids confrontation

silly as I think the theists are, I don't see any point in calling them out on it.

although, when I'm in the mood: I wear an Odin amulet, and when they ask what it is, I declare myself a worshipper.

when they react about how silly that is, I point out that yaweh is just another god in a long line of forgotten ones

would like an amulet like that!

doesn't really care about the belief, just the crappy crappy standard of evidence they have

You should watch this christian's videos:

He explains things from an interesting angle.

He uses visuals to explain why some things are not great:

cites Exodus 20:16 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor." at those pesky mistruths

this guy is a class act

, having watched the film, is shitting bricks... how the fuck is an *analogy* counted as an experiment?

why there's no "thal shalt not be retarded" commandment... you'd think that'd be in the top 10...

that it would be especially obvious for an all knowing god ... you know how stupid your followers will be, AHEAD OF TIME DAMN IT

reminded of

it's useless

used to get all fiery about explaining to ppl that farm4.static.flickr.com/...

now I don't even bother. ppl will believe in whatever they have decided they want to believe

I love astrology. Humans are awesome at patterns, so any sufficiently complex system of BS will seem to work ...

... I don't believe it literally has anything to do with anything... it's like technical analysis -- useless, technically...

but I love astrology.

it has a huge oneup on Christianity: planets provably exist.

reminds Dren that she'd correct someone who made fact claims about any other system/item/event and is not sure why "goddunnit" is special

read, exactly once, the astrology section of a news paper... it mentioned very vaguely "great fortune"... I lost my job that week

f00lish i206.photobucket.com/alb...

jettero it really is not funny any more

astrology is ignorance

astrology has not discovered any celestial objects

it is not a science. it is not based upon collected data and carefully controlled, objective observations

and it is not based up falsifiable predictions which are tested and re-tested by independent observers and researchers.

...

and there I go again

tries to formulate a consistent perspective on the world involving proper hypothesis testing

notes that this approach will never have all the answers, but is content in the knowledge that the process is sound

substack you are forgetting something - the approach will never have all the answers **in your lifetime**

notes that there are actual limits to reason which seem to be insurmountable

not sure she wants to read the article

agrees with jettero. Human brains are compulsive pattern-making and meaning-making machines. Our brains don't just use logic, but symbolism

as well. I like astrology, too. I see a lot of conflict, though, from practitioners and skeptics BOTH taking it factually. It doesn't operat

e at the level of "fact" and shouldn't be made to.

Dren: never said it was. I said it was BS, but because it's sufficiently complicated, you can always make it fit.

if it wasn't a sun sign thing, it's a rising thing, or a moon sign thing. Oh, you have a trine, that *must* be it.

If you wanna get really technical, it's provably incorrect. eg, iirc, there really aren't any scorpios anymore, the ecliptic has moved ...

jettero correct. and there are 13 signs in the zodiac circle not 12...

only a couple of which, actually line up astronomically speaking. Knowing it's BS doesn't change the fact that it's fun. I like lotto too.

well ok then... if you say that it's fun, than I for sure wouldn't argue about tastes here

a good rant

reminds Dren that scientists call things "theory" so they remain humble, and to remind them that things are only very very likely to work

gets cranky with people who make fact claims when they have no way to back it up. I will claw at them every time.

paws first, then claws

dislikes *screamers*, too

the *screaming* is often a tool used to balance out the lazy ignorance of someone parroting opposition to an idea that they don't understand

also annoyed with people who feel that i'm getting angry when I raise my voice... I am talking over you because i've already expalined this!

notes that there is no emotion in most of his arguments, and wether I state truth in an angry voice or if I state it in french!

uhm...

erm.... did I ...? did you misunderstood me

I wasn't talking about you raising your voice ...

I was simply ranting about the loud ignorants that they want to discuss but have no arguments...

I guess I had one such discussion from 2 days ago that made me go into that direction in the ranting in this plurk

hypothesizes

they call science theories, not because they're being humble, but because science changes all the time -- something religion can't do.

you just need good evidence and: *bam* science changes. Now what? Wow.

tries to test f00li5h's hypothesis

which theory Altreus is pawing at, and suggests to Dren that he also has had argumetns that lead to those two particular rants

The hypothesis that you are getting better at it. It should be tested.

notes that this time he had 2 well constructed counter-arguments (with metaphorical illustration) ... and had the answer to does love exist

notes that love *does* exist,but not in the same way as a toaster...

suggests that love (and all the emotiony bits) exist with your model of the world ... (illustrated as people glowing different colours)

there is some cognative science that supports people (and some of the more cunning apes) modeling the world in their heads...

love can exist in that model... which allows for people to believe stupid shit without everything they believe needing to physically exist

you got yourself a follower f00li5h

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*supports f00li5h*

agrees upload.wikimedia.org/wik...

why substack posted a picture of his aunty

to research the mind/brain thing more to get some evidence that makes his description look less like the rantings of a mad cat

snorts at the "aunty" comment i206.photobucket.com/alb...

respects substack's toastery antecedents upload.wikimedia.org/wik...