All four of us watching this declared this to be an entire waste of our lives. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE HYPE ABOUT?!

hahaha you missed all of the nuances i guess.

it's my dad's favorite movie.

was deckard a replicant? he was challenged by everyone the entire film about what the difference between android and human were

yet he's a bladerunner... he hunts rogue replicants... because androids have no rights... only to fulfill their created purpose

what if all of your memories were someone else's? what if everything that defined you as a person... was fabricated.

this is the dilemma rachel faces from the start of the film.

deckard goes on to build a relationship with her... but also continues his hunt for the rogue replicants...

he's torn over his own ethics... but justifies it out of duty and blind obedience... it's only when he encounters roy batty

that he's not only out smarted and over powered... but he's fighting something that has a WILL to survive...

something that wants to live... not just a malfunctioning machine... define it as a soul or a personality... or just accept that it is

self-aware... and already dying from its time-activated routine... so roy shows deckard what it's like to be afraid...

he takes him through multiple stages of grief... and pushes his body to its final limits by driving nails into his own hands...

all so he can prove to deckard, the bladerunner, that he was alive... and he appreciated the universe for all of its greatness...

but who would remember him... or carry on his intentions... replicants can't bear children... and his ideals will be cast aside as ramblings

of a rogue unit...

it's not until the final scene of the film... (if you watched the director's cut...) that gaff leaves an origami unicorn at deckard's door

and parts with the words "she won't live, but then again, who does?"

deckard had dreams of unicorns and shared them with no one... is he a replicant?

does gaff have the intention of following them? or is he just wishing them well with his parting words.

how was this a waste of your time?

...and the special effects are timeless.

then again, i get very cerebral with film... so i like the subtle ones.

ehhhh, while i can see all of those "nuances" in it, it just didn't do it for me. It reminded me of pi which i thought was godawful. Not in

it was too much like battlestar, and had freaking Adama in it. everything you mentioned adam, was like.. these are all concepts really

overdone in a lot of movies. i could see if this was the first of its kind, then MAYBE.. but eh i didn't find it impressive

nor did the dialog or action in the movie itself even suggest those things. it was like so subtle, it was ABSENT.

story itself but how it was told. I think the same exact concepts are covered in bsg in a much deeper way. I felt empathy for all of the

i thought maybe if there was a book then i'd appreciate it, but I didn't enjoy the movie

the way it was delivered didn't make it to me. everything you explained was there in some way but mostly lost on me while watching it

cylons in that, but i wasnt made to feel much for the machines in bladerunner. Maybe for decker's girl but that's because she was genuinely

I couldn't get over that so much of the actual plot was left to the audience to figure out, and normally with movies I need to be hand held

rather - i was EXPECTING to be hand held and entertained. I think even though i had no expectations, I thought it was going to be action

if i knew to approach it like Pi or the fountain or something, i would have probably had to watch it in a different environment

and not with friends over pizza, pop and loud noises, heh

a friggin sweetheart. Something about knowing you're a machine makes you a super asshole apparently-in both bsg and bladerunner.

and why call them bladerunners-they had no blades!

yeah that was lost on me..

i thought maybe he would use a crazy sword

If he was supposed to be someone they called in for his 'special techniques' i thought maybe he had some crazy skills using wicked epic

weapons that only he could do to fight these guys off.. but instead he was just a normal dude who followed them and gotten beaten up!

but then did they choose him BECAUSE he was a replicant? that i didnt even think of until what adam said. BLARGH

but even so he had no special...abilities. He did what any normal cop would.

well it's from the father of almost all CURRENT science fiction : philip k. dick... he wrote all of these stories in the 50s...

bladerunner aka "do androids dream of electric sheep", paycheck, minority report, a scanner darkly, screamers, total recall, next

parts of battlestar galactica are inspired by "do androids dream of electric sheep"... and you're also comparing a film to a 4 season series

i'm not an apologist for this type of thing... it's not going to appeal to everyone... i think we're often too cared for in story telling

agreed, i guess i just wasn't expecting it

... and this isn't one of those stories.

in the end, it's asking us... if we can't tell the difference... maybe we're all replicants. how do we overcome?

life, whether born in a womb or in a test tube... is life all the same.

i just finished the book blade runner was based on

aaaand i haven't seen the movie. but i enjoyed the book

based on what you guys are saying it seems like there are a lot of differences

go watch it and report back! Adam-caprica covered the same themes in one movie timeslot. DEF worth checking out

will do!

i think i will!

put it this way - if you loved bsg, you're gonna be stuck on caprica too.

and it starts as a full series in jan!

wow you guys suck, you liked empire records and not blade runner?

also, adam, incredible defense of the film!

different strokes for different folks! and thanks!

haha, empire records was just stupid fun. blade runner was just too much nonsense for me to handle. it was too subtle, everything.

it's like watching it is just supposed to make you feel smarter for finding all the little hints. that's like winning at where's waldo!

which is a game for children

(i was talking about blade runner!)

eh... as we went over earlier... it's not for everyone. there are many movies that operate on the same level that i'm sure you enjoy.

... and heck, i learned critical thinking skills in the first grade. right after i found waldo.

critical thinking skills? what's that?!

I kind of like ranting/praising about movies. It's a point you can argue on and never really be offensive. Don't like it? Well then it

wasn't for you.

I'm still debating if I want to complain about Inglorious Basterds....friggin Quentin...><

The antagonist was friggin amazingly awesome.

haha. i feel the same way. i love movies. and i like the platform for conversation... especially on the complicated/heavy handed ones

as far as inglorious goes... i think, in my experience, the tension was REAL. he didn't give the viewer any time to breathe

a lot of it was because of hans... but the officer in the pub was incredible, too... regardless of if you liked the characters or not

you feared for them... and that's quite an accomplishment.

i also enjoy his departure from history... to not only make light of his story... but to end it almost positively

oh i loved inglourious basterds yeah the tension was spot on, and the music set every mood SO PERFECTLY

it was good but then it was terrible at the same time. so much random nonsense plus so much awesome.

i didnt feel like they really focused on the basterds enough. i really wanted to see way more.

and there wasnt enough ass-kicking.