A Grinning DM
1 years ago
[Dresden Files] I’ve completed reading the first four books.
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Overbringer
1 years ago
Thoughts?
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
I do think that Butcher is pretty good at writing prose and handling pacing and being creative but consistent at in using mythological stuff in his setting
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
He also is occasionally casually racist, very sexist, and sometimes just grossly horny
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A Grinning DM
1 years ago
I don’t care enough to go back and count but he describes women’s nipples looking through the fabric of their clothes a lot , it is very cringe
Princess Emily
1 years ago
I do not remember that. I must have blocked it out.
Overbringer
1 years ago
That sounds about right
Overbringer
1 years ago
His other series are less.....
Overbringer
1 years ago
...../gestures
Overbringer
1 years ago
But overall he’s an author I’ve kinda outgrown
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
deerleisure: maybe he gets better about it in later books, but in his early books he’s got this horny teenage boy energy
Overbringer
1 years ago
If anything it gets worse
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
He first describes that character Maeve as (paraphrasing) “looking young enough that grown men shouldn’t have lustful thoughts about her but old enough that men can’t help but have them”
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
you know, before he describes her sexy outfit and her nipples poking through fabric
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
I’m going to keep reading because I think I’m learning how to be a better writer in my own work from his, both learning what I want to do better and what I want to not do in my own work
Overbringer
1 years ago
Maeve and most of the winter court are supposed to be unsettling but like
Overbringer
1 years ago
Jim, my pal
Overbringer
1 years ago
You could have done it some other way
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
I mentioned the big oof “Injun Joe” character in another Plurk and people mentioned they’d forgotten about him existing and like, I think Jim did too by the time he starts into the second act of that book
Overbringer
1 years ago
It’s SO consistent that every woman Harry meets is a drop dead gorgeous sexy bombshell to the point that my half joking head canon was that he just thinks all women are beautiful no matter what they look like
Overbringer
1 years ago
Since we’re getting the story from his pov
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
Well except for the half troll lady
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
He reminds us repeatedly that she is not attractive
RobotApocalypse
1 years ago
yeah the prose is uncomfortably horny a lot, unfortunately
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
I will say that characterization of Murphy improved a lot by the 4th book
Overbringer
1 years ago
I actually liked Murphy
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
In the first two books she is written really badly and in the third book she only shows up briefly to be psychically assaulted by Harry’s ghost doppelgänger so that Harry has another person to save
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
In the fourth book she actually is portrayed as being competent (instead of the book telling us she’s competent and then demonstrating the opposite to add to the stakes for Harry)
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
Also in the fourth book she actually gets to have a personality which is nice
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
I can see why my work is compared to Dresden Files beyond just the setting though, my POV character is very similar to Murphy (after Murphy gets some characterization) and my POV character’s “partner” is very similar to Harry
Overbringer
1 years ago
I like the core concept of the Dresden Files
Overbringer
1 years ago
Characters like Harry are usually supporting cast who offer information to the actual hero so seeing the “wise” mystic character take the center stage is fun
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
Well on the flipside, this has become a very common formula, where the main character is something weird, and they team up with a straight edge female detective and grow closer over time
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
Dresden Files, Castle, Lucifer (the TV version)
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
One’s a __! The other’s a straight edge cop! They solve murders!
A Grinning DM
1 years ago
On TV Tropes it’s called Female Flatfoot and Snarky Guy
Echo
1 years ago
Yeah, the Dresden Files is great for interesting worldbuilding and plot ideas and so so bad at anything other than Straight White Men.
Ziri✖O
1 years ago
I'm so sorry my condolences, I couldn't even finish the second book
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