mimikkyu
1 years ago
[uspol/internet censorship/kosa......again] I'm too exhausted to pull up info links about it right now because I"m so fucking tired of this shit but kosa has come up...again, and it passed the house panel markup so it has potential to go to vote soon. call your house reps
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1 years ago
yeah it's mozart using her public plurk again sorry I don't have links or anything but I am well and truly exhausted by this shit
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1 years ago
here are some numbers to call
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1 years ago @Edit 1 years ago
also contact your house reps, I messaged mine already though he's stated in the past he's pro internet privacy and always will be, I can't do much else otherwise
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1 years ago
also keep in mind that if in the horror scenario it does pass house, it still has to go to biden's desk, and while he's supportive of kosa (gag) and a lot of these people are experts at ignoring literally everybody telling them they don't want it, still pressure him to veto it
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1 years ago
and even if he signs it, it won't become law until a year from now and people are going to sue to stop it
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1 years ago
if anybody has any other information or links please post it in here
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1 years ago @Edit 1 years ago
also this isn't going to just affect the US it's going to be worldwide, despite what those pigheaded morons think
could you give a tldr of what kosa is
SCARY SLOWPOKE
1 years ago
I can find some links I bet =|a
SCARY SLOWPOKE
1 years ago
Maswartzhere for Fifteen Second Version
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1 years ago @Edit 1 years ago
internet censorship bill that leaves what you can see on the internet in charge of the ftc I believe, which is decided by the president, and it would super charge age verification laws
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1 years ago
to "protect children"
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1 years ago
here is a link from the eff
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1 years ago
these braindead pigs truly see no issue with having MINORS upload their ids on the internet
pastel ranma
1 years ago
It was never about protecting children, but hurting sex workers and other "deviants"
Un(t)sundered
1 years ago
^this
Un(t)sundered
1 years ago
it's about controlling the narrative
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1 years ago
and they make kids more and more unsafe as a result, they admitted that SESTA/FOSTA just made things worse
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1 years ago
and yet
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1 years ago
they keep doing it
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1 years ago
anyway call moscow mike and tell him you don't want democrats censoring your freedom of speech so don't bring kosa to the floor
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1 years ago
it passing markup and having a version in the house doesn't necessarily mean it's going to floor vote but they need to be pressured nonetheless
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1 years ago @Edit 1 years ago
I'm still disgusted by the lgbt organizations that rescinded their opposition because "oh they fixed it they pinky promised it's fine now"
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1 years ago
never ever ever trust politicians at their word
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1 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/71kmLeyGSy9X5GECGBwZ8Z.jpg

I'm trying to find where kosa was on the scheduling on the markup today and
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1 years ago
what a fucking clown house
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1 years ago
these are the most ridiculous time wasters and racists
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1 years ago
WOOOKE! WOOOOOKE!!!!
Just👻Ghosts
1 years ago
jfc I'm so embarrassed this is my country
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1 years ago
meanwhile trying to look int he technology section: ah they're trying to kill us faster with generative AI
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1 years ago
"let's pass legislation to make more of it! but 'safer'! never mind it regurgitates stolen information and uses so much water!"
cranberry sauce
1 years ago
the upside is that both parties are all "well what if the other party uses this to censor speech I like"
cranberry sauce
1 years ago
which we gotta milk for all its worth
cranberry sauce
1 years ago
there is a very real chance of this being stalled due to no one coming to an agreement on the details
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1 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/2EtHDOnHp2S7okXrJCZFHI.jpg
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1 years ago
oh also COPPA again
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1 years ago
I haven't heard anything about the amendments to that though so much as I have KOSA
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1 years ago
anyway they're calling it KOSA still and HR 7891 in case you need specifics while calling your rep
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1 years ago
for people who need the numbers in here for people you should contact besides your house rep: Mike Johnson (Member of the House)

202-225-2777

Hakeem Jeffries (Democratic House Majority Leader)

202-225-2936

Steve Scalise (House Majority Leader)

202-225-3015
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1 years ago
you don't need to make a big speech just "I oppose HR 7891 and ask that you don't bring it to the floor for a vote, I feel that a democrat/republican agenda will censor free speech" or something like that
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1 years ago
side note there are so many fucking republicans on the house energy committee my god
wheezes the US looked at the great firewall of china and went hold my beer
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1 years ago
most of these people do not understand how the internet works and want to censor speech they don't like sooo bad
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1 years ago
and they conned parents into thinking they care about protecting their kids
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1 years ago
there is more opposition to it in the house even from republicans though I will say
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1 years ago
and like indy said there's a lot of in-fighting over it and disagreement over details
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1 years ago
republicans are like "I want to censor woke and gay. ...but wait a minute.....what if the libs.....censor me too....hmmm..."
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1 years ago
democrats are like "I want to censor progressives that try to organize protests. ...but wait a minute....what if the righties.........censor me too...hmmmm..."
"it's for the kids" is such a fucking dogwhistle lmao
republicans: we want small government
also republicans: we think the government should do the job of actual parenting tho
certainly id laws are the solution we need
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1 years ago
it's very telling that the laws that would actually protect kids never gain traction but shit like this does. constantly. and some pass like the aforementioned SOSTA/FESTA, even though they have admitted it just made things worse
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1 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/2gquFk9LdvgVap3U4Dq9PT.jpg and this which slightly contradicts the first but
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1 years ago
the first post includes a link for a petition that non-US residents can sign
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1 years ago
since y'know kosa would affect...everyone
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1 years ago
and reminder today to call or email your reps and call the numbers posted in here to tell them not to bring it to the floor/vote no on it
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1 years ago
article on the "cracks" beginning to show as both the pigheaded morons realize "oh wait the other party can use this against us"
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1 years ago
said petition that can be signed even by international users
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1 years ago
I should note that not all democrats are being spineless blobs about this like castor, aoc has fully taken notice and been like "wtf" about this
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1 years ago
and maxwell frost (the ones that are gen Z/millennial, you'll notice)
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1 years ago
and I would love to see jasmine crockett speak on this I think she'd rip it to shreds
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1 years ago
(this is not to say that all millennials are aware of and dislike the idea of censorship, remember that current parents ARE millennials)
E.S. Levi
1 years ago
Decriminalizing sex work (while keeping it illegal to require it of someone) would go a long way, in the sense that there are TONS of stories of sex trafficking victims who stay trapped because they'd be arrested along with their abusers, but no, that would be 'depraved'...
E.S. Levi
1 years ago
Surely suppressing the evidence of sex trafficking of minors will help more than giving these kids confidence that they can go to the police without being punished for what they were forced to do e_e
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1 years ago
evening bump, offices are closed now I'm sure (I live over on the west coast so idk those hours) but remember to get calls in tomorrow (or emails) to house leaders and your reps
Exacerangutan
1 years ago
"think of the children" is one of the most popular camouflages for bigotry and cynical speech control in the world
Exacerangutan
1 years ago
I'm still dazzled by ardent leftists insisting that a Russian law banning the positive portrayal of homosexuality was sincerely just to protect children on the grounds that it was added as a subsection to a child protection law
E.S. Levi
1 years ago
They can claim anything is a child protection law, these people need to realize that putting a name on something doesn't magically make it relevant or good...
you've always gotta ask the most basic question: "what is x 'protecting children' from?"
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1 years ago
porn, lgbt content (which is porn), information that goes against their parents' beliefs, accessing birth control and safe sex information
a lot of "child protection" does nothing at all for children, it's all about preserving parental control, deserved or not.
like you need a degree of control to effectively raise a child; but that's not a justifiable excuse for owning them
which is really what some parents want.
are you actually for morality, or do you just wanna control some people?
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1 years ago
and yet, if they really wanted that...they could utilize tools that already exist for parental controls. they could communicate with their children. they could try to engage with them
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1 years ago
I realized that's an oversimplification when things like bullying come into play and again it sickens me how heinously politicians have manipulated grieving parents into thinking they care about their kids
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1 years ago
but the tools and guidelines already exist, it's just the fact that we don't have any data privacy to keep our shit from being stolen and sold + targeted that's the biggest issue
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1 years ago
but despite politicians saying kosa will "fight big tech" big tech is fully complicit and ready for this, hell I think I've read meta is actively funding this, because it sure takes pressure off them to actually abide by data privacy laws
E.S. Levi
1 years ago
A lot of the time, it's 'protecting' them from viewpoints outside of the ones the parents want to indoctrinate their kids with...
Pteryx
1 years ago
Not that we have much in the way of data privacy laws, mind you...
Pteryx
1 years ago
California has a little and that's about it.
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1 years ago
yeah and california is certainly trying its level best to destroy that too
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1 years ago
I think the only reason newsom hasn't shit on that yet is because of the budget and fires
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1 years ago
reminder today to do your calls and continue spreading it around that house is trying to pull some fuckshit (I checked the tumblr tag and haven't seen any updates though)
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1 years ago
update from evan greer: https://64.media.tumblr.com/be3697482ef53009b869934e461dad14/0e1034d8a235d7cb-a8/s1280x1920/738a42b0840492f631d9cfa140e84bd87e52c4e3.jpg https://64.media.tumblr.com/ec7f567150a39b3929fc896dd62645ba/0e1034d8a235d7cb-52/s1280x1920/edf7008713c233f208921be36edda36fa0e1efc4.jpg https://64.media.tumblr.com/0bfdc9b3a8aa8725419c22f356574e22/0e1034d8a235d7cb-8a/s1280x1920/a0a387cd922bda601993103fefad1cd56636ee47.jpg
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1 years ago
tl;dr schumer is still going to be a bastard and try to ram it through, moscow mike is a bastard in general, keep circulating the info and calling
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1 years ago
the house bill is a little better to neutral in some ways and worse in a lot of ways, it's still a very unconstitutional bill and if they try to jam it through with a must pass like they did with the tiktok ban well that's politics for you
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1 years ago
reminder that they admitted that they knew that tiktok is protected by the first amendment and pushed through with the ban anyway
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1 years ago
they're fully aware of this violating the first amendment too I'd bet
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1 years ago
they don't give a fuck
did the tiktok ban actually succeed? i still see tiktoks all the time
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1 years ago
so, it's not technically a "ban", it's a demand that bytedance sell to an american company (because data harvesting/selling but america is okay), right now it's in lawsuit hell as with most things like this
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1 years ago
if they lose the lawsuit/exit lawsuit hell + don't sell within a period of...6~9 months I think? THEN tiktok will be blocked from american internet
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1 years ago
but for the moment it's not "banned" (and you'll notice several politicians have a tiktok)
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1 years ago
kosa news today: it's passed commerce (predictably) that does not mean it's passed or been voted on by house but still, be aware and keep calling
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1 years ago
I thought congress and senate took breaks over the weekend, silly me
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1 years ago
I don't have any updates today as far as I can tell but also: fuck chuck schumer, his bitchass has been very aggressive in trying to push kosa forward
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1 years ago
morbidly humorous even anti-choice activists are starting to go "oh wait. what if kosa censors us too"
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1 years ago
it's very slowly coming into everyone's concrete skulls that censorship............works against everybody
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1 years ago
a post suggested calling him too about kosa but I don't...see what that would do? he's in senate, not house, and he's been told repeatedly even by children and just been like "well you're wrong anyway this is for your parents after all"
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1 years ago
no updates today but I am reminding you regardless to make your calls/contact your reps/bother johnson and jeffries and scalise
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1 years ago
it's quiet in the kosa tag and that's unsettling
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1 years ago
I don't have any specific updates today but these seem to be dates when house will be in session: https://64.media.tumblr.com/889ac18902362784424e5cb865a690cd/2740ba60dc55815f-8d/s1280x1920/f2944b8627eb0af63188765849235ef7eb2215fa.jpg
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1 years ago
and the post I get this from indicates "october-december" (I don't know if that means october through december or just october and december) will be key times to call
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1 years ago
the kosa tag on tumblr is distressingly silent and I don't know if people are just banking on the house being dysfunctional and while that's.....completely true, they've passed horrible shit while they thought we weren't looking before
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1 years ago
a google doc for resources/numbers/scripts too
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1 years ago
KOSA has passed house committee, from what I'm reading on tumblr, it still has a real chance of hitting the house floor despite scalasie saying he doesn't want to vote on it before the election (gee I wonder why he wouldn't want that)
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1 years ago
now there is still opposition to it in the house on both sides but it still wouldn't hurt to give those main three numbers (jeffries, johnson, scalasie) and your own reps a call
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1 years ago
I don't know how to spell scalasies name btw
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1 years ago
now mind you that post that said "kosa has passed house committee" did it in all scare caps and didn't specify WHICH committee and when this happened because that post was from two days ago and acc to the calendar house...should be in recess right now?
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1 years ago
https://64.media.tumblr.com/889ac18902362784424e5cb865a690cd/2740ba60dc55815f-8d/s1280x1920/f2944b8627eb0af63188765849235ef7eb2215fa.jpg
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1 years ago
this calendar
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1 years ago
so they're not going to go back into session until november 12th acc to the calendar?
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1 years ago
and I don't know what a "lame duck" session is but that was mentioned
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1 years ago
so, that's my reminder and poke about kosa today, keep calling even when they're not in session
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1 years ago
okay I just looked it up, so they're probably banking on trump getting elected and holding this lame duck session to push kosa through
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1 years ago
soooo...let's also not get trump elected if we want a chance of killing kosa too
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1 years ago
I know that democrats are going all in on loving internet censorship too but we really don't want a full republican house and senate behind trump
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1 years ago
yeah, so they're hoping to push kosa through if trump gets elected I'd bet
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1 years ago
so now that we're at the lame duck session again, we have to continue yelling at them about how KOSA is a bad idea
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1 years ago
the KOSA tags are unsettlingly quiet on updates/actionable items
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1 years ago
again I really dont know how helpful it would be, but contact biden as well to ask him to veto it
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1 years ago
schumer COULD be using the lame duck session to do useful things, but he won't he'll be pushing through the "antisemitism" bill to censor talking about israel's genocide in addition to other things nobody wants and will just make it easier for republicans to censor us
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1 years ago
yeah I can't find any actionable items on KOSA or updates about it right now, just the usual news and links I've been sharing in here
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1 years ago
I just find it amusing that republicans are so gung ho about getting this through (and democrats too of course) when it will almost certainly lead to ID laws

I thought they didn't like doxxing? I thought they didn't like people knowing who the goons behind the screen are and finding out everything about them?
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1 years ago
well that's going to happen more than ever with ID laws
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1 years ago
some people talked about going to french social media or something

I have bad news for them: europe is also trying to get measures like this passed, they have been trying it for quite a while
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11 months ago
it's back now with Elon meddling
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11 months ago
call your reps
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11 months ago
call Biden too if you must
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11 months ago
they're evidently trying to jam it through with budget bills because of course it's okay when they do it
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11 months ago
I'm not clear in if they managed to sneak it into the spending bill or not I'm seeing both yes and no
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11 months ago
I know it's holidays time and we're tired but we still need to pay attention to these things
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11 months ago
oh also Johnson claiming Republicans have been doing the most to protect children online
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11 months ago
fuck you Mike you lying piece of shit
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11 months ago
first of all democrats have been SUPER censorship happy lately themselves so evidently not, don't know why you're pretending kosa has been blocked solely because of evil dems
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11 months ago
Secondly lol your majority is piss thin, still
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11 months ago
third, fuck off, you don't care about children, you actively make it so children will die and suffer because they're not white or straight or cis or rich
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