12 and 14 for ethlyn, 5 and 6 for visas
wisdombitch2: Is Ethlyn happy with the place she lives... so! She is very happy with Leonster, the place she lives with her husband. She admires them for having held off the barbarian Thracians for so long, and she admires how King Calf (her father-in-law) truly cares about his people
(To the point where - following his son and daugher-in-law's deaths - he does perish in battle defending in, mostly because of treachery by an asshole in his lines)
SHE HAS... mixed feelings about Grannvale, her birthplace. She loves her home duchy of Chalphy but as she was fond of telling people early on in Expiation, she spent a lot of time trying to stop what Grannvale was doing. Altho in her life she didn't figure out that her family had made it easy for Grannvale to employ them as useful idiots in empire-building
she did understand that Grannvale was empire-building and she did not like it. She put that down mainly to the death of the Crown Prince and what that did to its elderly king (mainly: made him highly susceptible to manipulation and not paying attention to what his vassals were up to)
Grannvale is where most of the descendents of the historical heroes made their homes and she's disgusted at how many of them chose to use their gods-given gifts and status for power jockeying and political manipulation
4. Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is the best basis for a system of government
...ahem. BUT YEAH. she's a medieval noblewoman and she hasn't even really questioned the feudal system for uh. her whole life :'D and tbh hasn't questioned it all that much following her death?
I mean she's noticed that there are no stratified lines of peasant/noble of course but she's pretty much put that down to "teleported to another planet of course society is going to be wonky."
She does make a little habit of picking out erstwhile nobles and she doesn't look down on people who don't fit that classification but she's still a monarchist tbh
...that said she is skeptical about following a king until she knows that they're right for the job, because, gestures at Grannvale
5. Ethlyn is religious yes! She feels a bit strange about it because her gods are very much rooted in her homeland of Jugdral and she doesn't know if they have any capability to you know. Be in Expiation. SHE THINKS PROBABLY NOT.
But she still tries to live in a way that would be worthy of the great blessing they conferred on the founder of her house (both the one she was born into and the one she married into)
With Holy Blood and Holy Weapons their existence is not super ambiguous (and it's even LESS ambiguous for her nephew, who meets one of them) and she still has a small shrine in her room to pray to. Even if it takes a long time for her prayers to reach him
Her god doesn't actually get named in the game but I call him Svafrlami, because in Norse mythology he was the wielder of the TYrfing (the holy weapon granted to her ancestor)
Her faith, for her, involves living in a worthy way, and that makes her even angrier at the other descendants of Holy Blood who are selfish power-seekers because she sees them as betraying their ancestors and the gods both
paperbacks 12 Ethlyn has learned to be diplomatic and level-headed... but it is a habit and not an inborn trait. So if she was, say, engaging with a contentious subject at Jugdrali Thanksgiving
she would do her best to engage in it in a calm and rational manner and try to get people around to her way of thinking that way, and respect their arguments when she can
there's definitely a half-life to her ability to do that if it's with people she's known a long time. especially if it is her actual facts family
14. OOOH... okay so if Ethlyn is from Thracia, or Isaach, or Verdane - any of the countries deemed "barbarian"
she does probably still learn how to be a healer (because of gender politics and also genuinely desiring to) but she is very much more on the WARRIOR end of healer
Probably does not spend quite as much time learning how to be diplomatic and patient except in a medical bedside-manner context
Absolutely ferocious in defense of her patients, and her people overall. Very much a "best defense is a good offense" type
ETHLYN... so filled with complicated feelings!!!!! I love all of these answers
this is a class that can use literally ALL THE WEAPONS in Genealogy
one day she and claude have to talk about governance and gods <3 he's all for democracy but thinks it should be established after he's already done everything he wants to do as the ultimate authority because he's a hypocrite <3
but anyway. A LEVEL IN ALL WEAPONS
(minus dark/light magic bc those are Plot Powers)
wisdombitch LMFAO GOD RIGHT... "okay we will fix everything ourselves so it can't break again and THEN we hand over the reins, to sensible people"
also "barbarian" Ethlyn absolutely takes pride in being hit with that label and points out the hypocrisy of the "civilized" people at every opportunity
thracian ethlyn be like: I'm a healer but
LMFAOOO THAT'S LITERALLY HER
Visas 5: So gosh. THE FORCE AND THE JEDI AS A RELIGION is such a tricky thing. Visas did not learn how to be a Jedi in the standard way, and she experiences the Force in a different way than most by virtue of being of a species that literally uses the Force instead of sight
So in a sense, she knows that the Force is real, and so are its dangers. She knows its dangers especially well, and how it can magnify all feelings and turn impulse into action so easily
For her, the Jedi way is one of constantly knowing the easier path and choosing to take the more challenging one instead
which is the path of protecting others and resisting apathy in a universe that is full of things (both living and cosmic) that are trying to kill you
And the Jedi way also gives you tools to do that - philosophical and mental tbh mental health tools to do that. Being able to step back from your emotions of the moment and consider them before acting on them
6. TRAGICALLY WE DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE MIRALUKA CULTURALLY besides from "see through the Force" and "tend to become Jedi." And also the trauma she went through means she literally doesn't remember a lot of it
So far she hasn't really sought out the knowledge and memory she once had. In time I think she would, she's just early on that journey - everything that happened to her, happened in the past few years
Right now she's using the Jedi, and rebuilding the Jedi, kind of as that... since one of the things they're doing in the wake of the Jedi Civil War is recovering texts / holocrons / etc that were lost, being a part of that process allows her to learn about it, and at a kind of remove from it
oof yeah that's fresh trauma
So she can see both the good things that they did, and the pitfalls and mistakes that they made (they made some QUESTIONABLE CHOICES about who they allowed to train)
(maybe don't give flagrant racists extensive lightsaber training. maybe not that.)
paperbacks YEAH... she is really only just coming out of it