∞ sword girls
7 months ago
{meme / plurkpoll} So we've had the One Ring meme, and I want to do something a lil different on the same format: how would your character deal with the Kobayashi Maru test?
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∞ sword girls
7 months ago
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW: At Starfleet Academy, the Kobayashi Maru test is a command simulation that all cadets take. And always, invariably, it ends in failure.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
The premise is that you're trying to save a civilian ship from enemies (Klingons, specifically). But whatever you try - attacking the ships cleverly, engineering solutions, beaming aboard the civilians, beaming onto the enemy ship, straight up running
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
The computer will find a way to defeat your and destroy your ship. Because the point of the Kobayashi Maru is to test how you handle defeat.
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∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Famously, James T Kirk got around it by reprogramming the sim. In Star Trek: Prodigy, Dal tries about a zillion permutations before he gets what the point of the test is.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
SO FOR EXAMPLE.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Ethlyn takes a more explicitly humanitarian angle of trying to evacuate the civilian ship at first, and she sticks with that route for a long time. Eventually she gets fed up with the Klingons blasting escape pods and stuff, and she starts going ham on the Klingons. Full spread torpedoes, fire all phasesrs, merciless
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
She probably starts to get it at about the point she's ordering her ship to ram the Klingon ship and the computer spits out 5 more enemy ships
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Paine starts aggro right away. Then she gets sneaky. She probably does tricks with tractor beams and creating illusory ships. I think her final move, though, is just to order everyone else to do nothing, completely power down her ship and sit in the captain's chair with her arms and legs crossed
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
because she gets it. and she does NOT like it. so her final solution is "do not accept the premise of the test."
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Kes probably figures it out early on (putting aside that she could find out from someone else on the ship). So she starts testing the different ways she can fail, on purpose.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
ANYWAY. REPLY WITH YOUR OWN CHARACTERS OR SPREAD IT AROUND, I WANNA KNOW
dazai’s first gambit is trying to gain control over the klingon ships directly and then he probably figures it out and puts a virus in the sim JFNGKHLJ
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
LOL that does not surprise me
OH THIS IS SUCH A FUN ONE
funnily enough, claude's approach is probably the exact same as ethlyn's lol, but probably would not ever understand that failure is the point and would get DEEPLY FUCKING IRRITATED BY THE WHOLE THING
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
LMAOOOO
if in-universe he'd probably wind up doing the kirk thing after a very, very long time but he'd be pissed off the whole time and would never in fact learn his lesson. alternatively, he'd stay in the simulation long enough for all the civilians to die but would get his revenge anyway like
:-) was this not the test?
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
LOL SO CLAUDE IS IN FACT JUST LIKE KIRK
yusuke just keeps aggroing the ships. repeatedly. overheats the sim just from his refusal to give up
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Kirk: I cheated the test
The Moral Of The Story Is You Can't Cheat Life
LMAOOOO YEAH. YEAH. we did discover through rp that jim and claude are VERY similar
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
that's hilarious omg... I'M NOT SURPRISED THO
riz would need to be forcibly removed from the machine because he would inevitably spiral into a manic episode
the sim was not meant to be played 240 times in a single hour.
which is to say, he would then be removed from the program
Dude Who Spirals Into Manic Episodes is not good cadet material
he will not leave the sim until he’s beaten it and/or someone forcibly removes him yeah at which point he’s beating up the programmer
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Lmao well if he does that then he's probably getting a suspension from the academy
yeah I'm pretty sure trek's tech has moved beyond overheating LOL
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
wisdombitch OMG POOR RIZ... god riz in the academy would be. hilarious. and disastrous.
IT WOULD BE VERY BAD LMAO and he's like an inch away from a manic episode at all times anyway, so
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
I feel like he'd get recruited out of the academy into like, the Timeline Police
(someone medicate the goblin.)
HAHAH yes I can see that
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
"you seem obsessive and high-strung. would you like to help us keep the timeline from getting fucked. people are constantly trying to break it."
vash would also get kicked out of the program just because it gets to the point of obsession. the man is literally weeping about the fictional dead people. someone save him.
HAHAH the trek version of being an angel spy, love that for him <3
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
P MUCH YEAH
realizing I have no characters that would be normal about this except maybe ginko bfjskgkh
KETER
7 months ago
i mean i play kirk so we already know what he did
KETER
7 months ago
and he was so much of a nerd and a teacher's pet that he didn't even get in trouble for it
also while it's been a long time since I've played my dudes who are actually in military/policing complexes, I have to add that rex and kim would both very stoically accept that they lost and would seek further guidance from their betters
which is probably why they're actually good at their professions asjkasjak
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
perilous LOL YES
shinji loses the simulation maybe twice and drops out of the academy himself
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
wisdombitch lmao THAT'S CUTE... rex trying to figure it out earnestly
LMAO YES rex going up to his commander like "I've failed, please provide me with guidance in how to be a more effective leader"
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
"Accept that sometimes defeat is inevitable"
TERRIBLE ANSWER!!!!!!
Dr. Stantz
7 months ago
....honestly my favorite answer to the Kobayashi Maru is Scotty's.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
lmao didn't he try beaming the warp core into the enemy ship or something?
Dr. Stantz
7 months ago
Namely he took advantage of the fact that it was a sim by deliberately performing maneuvers that on paper would work but were physically impossible in real life. So they transferred him to the Engineering school, which is what he wanted in the first place.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
OH THAT'S RIGHT lmao.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Changing the premise from "no win scenario" to "Scotty wins scenario"
Dr. Stantz
7 months ago
The best part is that Scotty, before ever even entering the academy, was the one who proved it was physically impossible.
Jay
7 months ago
Aloy would be out there noting a new little detail each run and trying to use it as an exploit on her next insistent attempt. Can we take advantage of the time between decloaking and defensive systems coming online to deliver crippling attacks? Can we beam something onto the ship? Can we ping their location to target while still cloaked by doing something...
Jay
7 months ago
Her first instinct is can she get something done a little faster, a little more perfect, so that she can squeeze a success out of it.
Jay
7 months ago
Once it’s clear she can’t get an outright win, she second instinct is to try to find a way to sacrifice the ship to create circumstances where the Maru crew and her own crew can at least escape/survive. And she’ll spend a long time running permutations to try getting that to work.
Jay
7 months ago
I think in the end she arrives at a point of if I can’t beat the simulation, let me go beat the simulation’s designer at something
Dr. Stantz
7 months ago
That's actually what Nog does in one of the short stories about his attempts at the Kobayashi Maru. He sacrifices his ship in an attempt to slingshot the Maru out of the Neutral Zone.
Jay
7 months ago
IIRC a funny one was someone going “Uhm. It would be a very bad thing to enter the Neutral Zone.” flies away
Jay
7 months ago
God, Mariner would be gleefully trying to come up with the craziest way to die in the Maru
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Omg Aloy trying to beat not the sim but outwit the programmer, love it
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
and lmao god I CAN ONLY IMAGINE
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Mariner was still straightlaced back then but I bet her wild tendencies started coming out after a couple of runs at the Kobayashi
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
I bet she does it for fun now. Like her Cardassian prison breakout cardio
My Weyard Son
7 months ago
I never knew the details of the test before, just what Kirk did. Nice XD
Dr. Stantz
7 months ago
fakealchemist: Sulu actually did do that!
Jay
7 months ago
Mariner loudly going like IT’S RIGGED MAN, SO LET’S HAVE FUN WITH IT while Boimler goes noooooo but it’s still a test what’s the most promotable way to be seen dealing with death
Dr. Stantz
7 months ago
He just left.
My Weyard Son
7 months ago
Echo is so used to following orders and being the one who cannot fail, so she'd probably try forever... That or just eventually break the computer running the simulation.
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
omg I DID NOT KNOW THAT ABT SULU... iconic
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
kaitodoushi oh nooo echo!! ;;
My Weyard Son
7 months ago
Yeah, her life is suffering and she doesn't even realize this fact...
mae
7 months ago
oh gosh i think the test would defeat marianne. she would try to save the civilians and get too depressed to go on after several failures
mae
7 months ago @Edit 7 months ago
if this were post-timeskip marianne with more confidence i can see her continuing to try and even get aggressive/frustrated in her plays. but ultimately conclude the commander role is not for her u_u
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
awww Marianne ;; YES SHE WOULD DEFINITELY SWITCH RIGHT INTO MEDICAL TRACK FROM THAT most likely
Peter Parkour
7 months ago
sighs in james t
Peter Parkour
7 months ago
yes he hacked the test but being an annoying bastard about it was certainly a choice
dead characters
7 months ago
til the kobayashi maru wasn't a real-world ship that kirk was on
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
trickster88 SUCH A CHOICE
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
paperbacks omg...
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
Nope! Training simulation, named after the civilian freighter you doom yourself trying to save
dead characters
7 months ago
my trek osmosis failed!
Peter Parkour
7 months ago
i did start writing a fic once where instead of the academic tribunal in AOS being interrupted by an emergency, jim is stupid enough to debate spock into revising the test and letting him take it a fourth time
Peter Parkour
7 months ago
i never finished it but god the concept is enough to make me laugh
leans into the mic kirk would hack it again
spock has never taken it but has no interest in taking it why would he when he can just support kirk
also lbr he'd lie his way out of it
be bonkers enough to be like yes i accept the results but also depending on his period of time the needs of the many etc.
find a way to sacrifice himself to sa- oh, he already does that in WoK :-)
Jay
7 months ago
"What do you think...of my solution?"
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
WEH.....!!!
∞ sword girls
7 months ago
god. one of the scenes of all time.
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