amyorama.
7 months ago
[the comics industry] On the one hand, lol. On the other hand, please come on. 🙃
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amyorama.
7 months ago
Hang on let me find a link that's not Bleeding Cool...
amyorama.
7 months ago
A summary for anyone unfamiliar: Diamond Comic Distributors has essentially had a monopoly on comics distribution for ages. Maybe since around the 90s? Maybe a little earlier/later. Idk, I wasn't there.
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amyorama.
7 months ago
Anyway, during the pandemic, when they stopped distributing but still took everybody's money and stopped paying out to publishers, the big players finally got tired of their Hot Mess Services and started breaking off. I believe DC bounced first.
spooky queer
7 months ago
ohhh boy
amyorama.
7 months ago
Marvel went non-exclusive. Publishers down the ladder started either entirely jumping ship or splitting their distribution. I thiiiink Dynamite might be a largest exclusive client left. And they do have side-companies that deal in games, TCGs, figures, etc.
amyorama.
7 months ago
Some time last year, things really started to fall apart. They owe a lot of money to a lot of people. This finally escalated to a point at which they filed bankruptcy.
amyorama.
7 months ago
The speculation and bidding goes back and forth. The actually auction happened...recently? Late last month, early this month? Alliance Whatever Whatever wins the bid.
amyorama.
7 months ago
Diamond immediately tries to back out and go with another bid.
amyorama.
7 months ago
A judge smacks them back down.
amyorama.
7 months ago
Alliance acquires Diamond, deal supposedly finalized 4/25. Done and dusted. Except...!
amyorama.
7 months ago
Except today, lol.
amyorama.
7 months ago
A big part of Alliance's interest in Diamond had to do with their contract with Wizards of the Coast, which Diamond supposedly did not disclose was due to expire literally tomorrow. That's the latest claim in the new lawsuit, at least.
amyorama.
7 months ago
Like, I read the expiration date on their already-extended contract and guffawed. Christ.
amyorama.
7 months ago
Anyway, I'd like all this to be over but it's also hilarious.
???
7 months ago
holy lawsuits, batman
amyorama.
7 months ago
Lotta suing that's thus far just kinda fallen through.
amyorama.
7 months ago
Diamond may or may not have to shift their chapter filing as well. I don't know much about bankruptcy proceedings, but it seems to be a difference between being about to sell of assets/debt and being forced to liquidate.
amyorama.
7 months ago
Is Diamond a shitshow? Yeah. Would smaller pubs be able to find another distributer at their scale? Ain't lookin' good, folks. Mismanagement could really kneecap the ability of small publishers to get themselves into stores.
???
7 months ago
that's horrible
???
7 months ago
always the big ones that ruin it for the little guy
amyorama.
7 months ago
Yeah, it's potentially a real big bummer we've got on our hands.
???
7 months ago
that really sucks 😕 not fun to deal with at all
amyorama.
7 months ago
Courts have accepted backup bid, which is a joint deal. One of the quoted Company Dudes (specifically for the company now set to obtain DCD/DBD) mentioned a familiarity with comics/comic shops, at least as a kid, so... That might be a plus!
three
7 months ago
will keep our fingers crossed man it's such a messs
amyorama.
7 months ago
lmao, yes. My boss sent me a link to the announcement article, and I mentioned, like "at least until they get into the nitty gritty of the purchase and potentially also decide that Diamond misrepresented its assets". But hopefully that won't be a thing! But who knows!
amyorama.
7 months ago
Love that a legit question as to the continuation of a chunk of this industry is "how deep is this guy's fandom??" Haha.
amyorama.
6 months ago
Introduced to this concept a little before the story broke via "Oh, you emailed Steve? Well, you're probably not hearing back from Steve."
amyorama.
6 months ago
Man...
amyorama.
6 months ago
I'm now in a BC article and my backup contact may have also been fired. Not sure, since I can't remember his last name and I'm not logging into my email rn.
amyorama.
6 months ago
Your job really shouldn't need a Celine Dion power ballad for the soundtrack, but...
amyorama.
6 months ago
PRH pulling all their publishers from sub-distribution with Diamond, apparently. That leave Diamond with... Dynamite, I guess. And smaller pubs.
amyorama.
6 months ago
I don't remember who else is left, but this might have retailers breaking from Diamond altogether if they don't do a lot of Dynamite/indie-ish sales.
three
6 months ago
as someone who worked in supplychain for quite a while i get it but also eeek.
amyorama.
5 months ago
I still don't really know what's going on with Diamond and it's making things increasingly stupid every day, lol.
amyorama.
5 months ago
You want to know when your book's releasing? Sorry, I have no clue! Is Previews coming how, requiring me to write the catalog entries? Nobody seems to know!
amyorama.
5 months ago
This whole matter seems to just be several poorly managed companies whacking each other with lawsuits until they're all collectively beat into some form of submission.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Alliance won the bankruptcy bid, Diamond tried to go with runner-up Ad Populum, judge ordered that they had to go with Alliance as the winning bid, Alliance accuses Diamond of being dishonest about assets, etc. and backs out, Ad Populum returns victorious, immediate layoffs, more major publishers pull out entirely...
amyorama.
5 months ago
Alliance hires several of the laid off Diamond employees, Ad Populum accuses them of using their previous position as winning bidder to snipe "trade secrets"... So that's another lawsuit/action.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Dynamite claims they're owed $500K in back-payments plus legal fees, right now immediately, or something to that effect, and now Diamond/Ad Populum has just countered that claim with another action.
amyorama.
5 months ago
This is the last "major" publisher they have left.
Good god. So uh... how's that résumé coming along?
amyorama.
5 months ago
lmao, I mean... I've got better-looking job titles now! So that's something. Will it mean much if this and every other US-based indie pub collapses? Probably not.
amyorama.
5 months ago
But there's just so much happening in the world and I'm honestly not panicking about the possibility just yet. If it happens, it happens. It's just so, so stupid.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Welp, Dynamite's moved to Lunar. Or they at very least aren't exclusive with Diamond anymore. This leaves Diamond 2.0 without any 'big' publishers.
amyorama.
5 months ago
They also still are reportedly not making payments to publishers and have terminated "No Cost (Re-) Orders," the process by which publishers obtain books for shows, their own stock, etc. So they're holding the product hostage.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Oh, and the PREVIEWS catalogue will no longer be published in a physical edition. Online-only.
amyorama.
5 months ago
The last isn't a HUGE detriment, I'd think, but I know a lot of people like flipping through it and finding things. Useful tool, but it's not completely gone.
Oof... I've been seeing the dribble down effects of this at work (delayed books, no Comic Shop news, etc) and hearing the behind the scenes stuff is a mess
I know at least one regular who buys/asks about Previews every month so he's probably not gonna be pleased about this turn of events
though lmao at the guy who came in back in... I think it was March who bought a Previews and was like OH THIS WILL BE VALUABLE, IT'S THE LAST ISSUE!! and me looking at the solicits for the May issue on our site like :-) yep sure is!
should have waited a few more months my guy smh
amyorama.
5 months ago
Yeah, I think... May-for-July will have been the last one? But, hey, there's still time to snag that one maybe!
amyorama.
5 months ago
Just got forwarded a news release about DC moving to Universal, so now the speculation is that PRH may move to sub-distribute with them.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Freakin' Zenoscope left Diamond, even, so... Really all that's left are the guys that barely anybody's heard of (no offense to my own place of employ, lol.).
amyorama.
5 months ago
I just don't see most retailers, particularly small retailers, bothering to delve into Diamond's offerings now without a physical book showing up at their door. They're invisible now.
amyorama.
5 months ago
They're basically required to make the jump to Lunar/PRH/Universal at this point. Diamond's just going to be a time sink for books that people aren't buying in remotely significant amounts.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Old Diamond's (I think. I've also seen it reported as Universal/New Diamond) move now is...claiming consignment stock has defaulted to their ownership so that they're able to liquidate it and keep the money (to maybe go towards their debt payments).
amyorama.
5 months ago
Diamond does not own the product in its warehouse. It's a distributor holding product for publishers/companies in order to fulfill orders to stores.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Virtually all of our books are in Diamond's warehouse. I have zero doubt many other small publishers who've partnered with Diamond function in a similar way in which they don't have their own warehouse space. This is essentially all of our inventory.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Unless there's a cache somewhere I don't know about, lol.
amyorama.
5 months ago
But that would leave us with nothing to sell. And delayed/non-existent payments for the past several months plus owed money from the past year-ish means we can't print new books.
amyorama.
5 months ago
So idk. Hopefully the judge says "no, that's bullshit."
amyorama.
5 months ago
Their argument is that everyone should have filed a specific piece of paperwork during the bankruptcy process, but nobody was informed of this to my knowledge. The sheer number of publishers listed, including bigger names, leads me to believe that nobody was made aware of this possibility. Even companies that feasibly have lawyers on-hand are listed.
amyorama.
5 months ago
How are people supposed to know that they have to file paperwork to save their stock when Diamond's been claiming "business as usual!" throughout the process? Who fuckin' knows.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Anyway... Diamond, ladies and gentlemen.
go rimbaud
5 months ago
yeah that's a good way to get sued
go rimbaud
5 months ago @Edit 5 months ago
but things like that are why no one was really mourning the loss when it looked like they might be for real gone
amyorama.
5 months ago
For sure. Definitely a scoop of "yes, please leave" alongside it sucking ass that they're likely taking a huge wave of small publishers out with them.
amyorama.
5 months ago
Again, not sure at all of the legal viability of what they're attempting here. Hopefully it gets beaten down. If it goes through, idk was suing can even do if we are talking Old Diamond. They have nothing but debt.
go rimbaud
5 months ago
yeah the worst part of a monopoly is that they become the infrastructure for an industry, so when they do die it hurts the people who aren't big enough to find their own
amyorama.
5 months ago
Yeap. And now those who can scrape up and move (fewer businesses if everyone's stock is yoinked) are just going to move to the same 1-2 distributors. Rinse and repeat.
amyorama.
2 months ago
They're just filing against everyone in alphabetical order it seems.
amyorama.
2 months ago
Previous rulings made it so that Diamond had to file against every individual publisher in order to get rulings on whether consignment stock belongs to them. I think the expectation from there was that they'd come to the table and settle rather than...actually attempt that.
amyorama.
2 months ago
But they are, in fact, actually attempting that.
amyorama.
2 months ago
Mind that there's still a hearing coming up regarding whether or not publishers can escape their contracts. Which is somehow still a question after the bankruptcy because hahaha capitalism law.
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