Alexceptional
5 months ago
[Clair Obscur]: NG++ plurk
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Alexceptional
5 months ago
Apparently the scaling continues until about NG+++++
Alexceptional
5 months ago
And you can have up to NG+++++++++
Alexceptional
5 months ago
At what point do you just never need colour of lumina anymore
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Alexceptional
5 months ago
THIS NEW PATCH
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I know I could just take off Painted Power if I wanna play hardmode but ... that's hideously unreasonable when everything has 100mil hp in NG++
Alexceptional
5 months ago
But I'm glad there's a gradient now
Alexceptional
5 months ago
Did I double all enemy hp yes.
Alexceptional
5 months ago
SUFFERING
Alexceptional
5 months ago
It should also make NG5+ to NG9+ scalable when before they were not
Alexceptional
5 months ago
If it's still too easy with double hp on every mob/boss I'll see about dampening damage output
Alexceptional
5 months ago
But beyond setting that up I haven't played
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I got up to the festival and got all sad
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I've seen the prologue... 4 times now?
Alexceptional
5 months ago
Bitch, I'm still crying over it
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I didn't wanna even do the prologue, but Alex was asking for my Verso build (Gustave inherits it anyways so it's fine) but there's no party menu until you reach the festival
Alexceptional
5 months ago
So I had to get through sadness to get her the build details
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I sent it to her, closed the game and now she wants Sciel's lol
Alexceptional
5 months ago
Maybeeee another day
Alexceptional
5 months ago
TODAY WAS ANOTHER DAY
Alexceptional
5 months ago
So it seems to be scaling pretty okay?
Alexceptional
5 months ago
But using Clea's Life on everyone isssssssss................................. it's giving unbalanced~
Alexceptional
5 months ago
So I've got the hp x2
Alexceptional
5 months ago
But I was thinking
Alexceptional
5 months ago
What if I just did all of Act 1 with just .... Gustave
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I mean. That would be a challenge, he scales horribly and despite all the buffs I shove onto him he just can't compete with the other party members
Alexceptional
5 months ago
He's genuinely not designed to function decently beyond the first playthrough's Act 1
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I should probably do Sciel, Maelle and either Monoco or Lune - I have them built about the same tbh
Alexceptional
5 months ago
Just Lune has more elements at her disposal and dots while Monoco is king of the shields and both are decent debuffers
Alexceptional
5 months ago
HOWEVERrrr
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I will steam roll everything
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I could put enemy HP at x100
Alexceptional
5 months ago
Is it times of %
Alexceptional
5 months ago
Whatever. I CAN MAKE IT WORSE
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I am going to bed but I will test this out tomorrow
Alexceptional
5 months ago
I usually get frustrated with Gustave pretty quick so lol
Alexceptional
5 months ago
We'll see if I cave and just buff the enemies more or if I stick to it and try to just solo all of act 1 with him
Alexceptional
4 months ago
So the Solo with Gustave idea seems to be working?
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Like it's a decent challenge
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I'm only passed Flying Waters, granted. But lol his build is completely whack
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I just let him inherit Verso's build and. Honestly. It's better than the Gustave-specific build I had
Alexceptional
4 months ago
But also. The pictos have gained a lot of levels since Gustave was in my party last lol soooo Gustave's build might still be better for him than Verso's but.
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I can't be assed to recoat him
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I already need to adjust Maelle's build. But I won't bother with her until Act 2
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Done Act 1 with just Gustave solo'ing the whole way https://images.plurk.com/Xi0SrRJ25VXGH4L8QLIZS.png
Alexceptional
4 months ago
The only death I had was ... I forget the boss's name but the one in Yellow Harvest. The tree guy near the boats
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I messed up the timing on the root attack and nothing could save me lol
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Uncreatively, I'll try to do Act 2 with just Verso and Act 3 with Maelle
Alexceptional
4 months ago
The only exception to Act 3 will be Simon just because you literally can't beat him as a solo artist
Alexceptional
4 months ago
^ do u get the pun
Alexceptional
4 months ago
doyadoyadoya
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Ah....
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I one-shot Crushing Cavern worm guy
Alexceptional
4 months ago
By which I mean it died in one turn
Alexceptional
4 months ago
HMN. I guess I'll up the difficulty
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I forgot how weak Gustave is by comparison
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Verso just annihilates everything. It's embarrassing
Alexceptional
4 months ago
So I had enemy life multiplier at x2
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I'm going to try x10 for the next boss and see if that works better
Alexceptional
4 months ago
....... Nope
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Killed the overworld lantern carrying boss in 4 turns
Alexceptional
4 months ago
x20 and we're going for Sprong lmao
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Sprong took me 5 min
Alexceptional
4 months ago
LOL I DON'T WANNA DO x50 THIS IS GETTING DUMB.
Alexceptional
4 months ago
It's now at x50 but I'm going to bed
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I have a feeling Act 3 is going to have to be entirely x100 with Maelle
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Verso's not even the heaviest hitter. This is so dumb
Alexceptional
4 months ago
But also. I could limit damage output but
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Man, I worked hard on these builds. I don't wanna rearrange these builds for a damage cap
Alexceptional
4 months ago
That would mean building a whole new build for everyone
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Maybe that will be NG+++
Alexceptional
4 months ago
For the record, Verso has nearly 600 lumina
Alexceptional
4 months ago
This is not a 1st playthrough build. I've been aiming for this for a while
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Maelle's build is way cheaper. She really just needed 150 to get rolling and now she's around 450 and I'm just taking pictos for ~funsies~
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Verso is so expensive lmao
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I have met my match. I can't do Dark Shores with Verso solo yet. I will try again once I have gradient dodge but it's impossible with gradient dodge disabled :c
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Literally just have to face tank it and against 3 at the same time... ya he's not gonna make it even with angel eyes and second chance and all that
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I can survive 2 back to back, base shield eats 1 and angel eyes recovers the other, but I can do nothing to survive a third
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I can get Gradient level 3 every 3 turns
Alexceptional
4 months ago
So with Cheater that's like a turn and a half lol
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I did do the Stone Waves.... Cave boss. The guy with the glowing rock on his back
Alexceptional
4 months ago
That glows to red unless you shoot at it
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Verso demolished it .-.
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I stunned it within the first turn and then every turn after stun stun stun stun
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Poor little guy didn't even get a turn
Alexceptional
4 months ago
It took a while
Alexceptional
4 months ago
But no turn means no damage taken means ez pz
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Lol I'm probably gonna send a ticket like
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Hey so. Verso is broken af can you nerf him please
Alexceptional
4 months ago
lmao...
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I could, theoretically, do this to Simon
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I can get Gradient 3 in 3 turns, Monoco can use Break Point
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Then Verso can keep him stunned for the rest of eternity so long as he keeps speed up
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Which he can keep greater rush up forever. And if we can also tack on Greater Slow... probably Simon won't even get a chance to breathe
Alexceptional
4 months ago
But we'll see. I'm just theorizing now
Alexceptional
4 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/69BjoJtFKODjlMh756xE1n.png My Verso build when he burns people, too
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Not nearly as efficient with it as Maelle, but he does what he can
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I'm finding most fights even with Challenge at 50x hp aren't difficult... it's more endurance https://images.plurk.com/2HZhFhJ0n9qeOc37P9V8iH.png
Alexceptional
4 months ago
This one only took 15 min. But I definitely start to lose focus after 10 min or so and usually it costs me Second Chance to correct
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Verso didn't go down at all this fight, but Survivor kicked in at one point because I lost focus lol
Alexceptional
4 months ago
HOWEVER
Alexceptional
4 months ago
THE REASON I couldn't concentrate is less the timing and more this creature's fault
Alexceptional
4 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/7oMJ9JRhXhHfhVMjrOSfEc.jpg
Alexceptional
4 months ago
COULD I FEEL MY FINGERS? No, not really. She is 12 lbs and while not all her weight was on my arm... lol it was enough
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Especially when my Verso build requires free aim every single turn it was like Challenge Mode ++ lol
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Oh. My. Good. Grief. Simoso is so fucking op. It's dumb
Alexceptional
4 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/3RNFmWEUoQZQUWojUrhNU1.png He should be dead. I got hit by 3 one-shot worthy hits
Alexceptional
4 months ago
But because he was in S rank with Simoso, he survived every hit
Alexceptional
4 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/OSCkk6YLRrEidEi0XqouS.png Should have died 3x over lol but had no deaths
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I don't have a choice on party for Renoir's fight
Alexceptional
4 months ago
He is a bit chonky https://images.plurk.com/5aKLX1jz0wTH8BqhMchpDg.png
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I can now consistently get tier 3 gradient in 2 turns
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Can we get it down to every other turn?
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Very weak wind up https://images.plurk.com/1SKabDK7Lboxfh0Ay7017D.png
Alexceptional
4 months ago
No powerful, no defenseless, no mark, no nothin'
Alexceptional
4 months ago
lol Verso does 8mil with a 2ap skill
Alexceptional
4 months ago
I really gotta work on Maelle's build for Act 3, this won't do
Alexceptional
4 months ago
You know I'm struggling in a fight when Verso is pulling off this many burn stacks all on his lonesome
https://images.plurk.com/1KxY5MJNrX2u9X4GHqBylx.png
Alexceptional
4 months ago
200 is a new record for him, I think https://images.plurk.com/4Zuqr4MqPH5Cq0XsDFyuhp.png
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Since I got gradient dodges now, I went back to Dark Shores
Alexceptional
4 months ago
And hooooly crap these guys are so easy with Simoso
Alexceptional
4 months ago
Like.............. I thought they were hard. I remember them being so difficult. But the last playthrough I fought them without gradient dodge
Alexceptional
4 months ago
gradient......... parry, whatever
Alexceptional
4 months ago
What a difference this makes lol
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Okay so I sped through Act 2 cause Anna wanted to see how Act 2 finishes
Alexceptional
3 months ago
But I reloaded an old save, the oldest I could find in the file which put me back in the monolith
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Cause when I was speeding, I dropped my playing.... rules
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Like I had 3 party members, I got rid of the challenge hp multiplier
Alexceptional
3 months ago
But nowwwwwwww
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Hello Renoir https://images.plurk.com/W8CfJsnJTFbIjpsP5yO32.png
Alexceptional
3 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/EbrSMFrFPKVufMUE9UQbO.png
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Regrets intensify
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I think he has 11mil hp by default
Alexceptional
3 months ago
But we'll... see how much this puts him at
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I forgot to do this initially and I one-shot him with Verso
Alexceptional
3 months ago
So hopefully this should at least let me see Phase 2
Alexceptional
3 months ago
BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU CAN SKIP IT??
Alexceptional
3 months ago
riddle me that, game what the heck
Alexceptional
3 months ago
WHOOPS I MEANT THIS https://images.plurk.com/vCyQKYPmuV5qGE6TDt8m8.png
Alexceptional
3 months ago
1 mil damage later, his hp bar didn't budge
Alexceptional
3 months ago
........ So does he have 1,100,000,000 hp?
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Am I in danger
Alexceptional
3 months ago
lol I was absolutely in danger
Alexceptional
3 months ago
2 days later I'm still stuck fighting him
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I got him to phase 2 where he heals (1.1bil HP LMAO)
Alexceptional
3 months ago
And I then got promptly overwhelmed because of Berserk
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Rage?
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Whatever, the thing that lets them have two turns within 1 turn
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Honestly, he's worse than Simon
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I can handle Simon, even with his intense amount of speed and phantom swords
Alexceptional
3 months ago
There's a strat there
Alexceptional
3 months ago
BUT RENOIR? Buddyyyyyyy.......
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Also, I realized I don't have Double Burn pictos on Maelle
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Which is just ???
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I LIED she has it. It's Verso who doesn't. https://images.plurk.com/2q2KktqzixzqcqhwWli7bj.png
Alexceptional
3 months ago
645 burn stacks
Alexceptional
3 months ago
And if I managed to break him with Verso instead of Monoco that would get doubled yet again to 1290 stacks
Alexceptional
3 months ago
But I did not do this because I was using the Monoco-Verso duo stun combo
Alexceptional
3 months ago
The strat, if anyone is actually reading this (lol you shouldn't, this is like trash tv)
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Monoco uses Break Point, Verso uses End Bringer
Alexceptional
3 months ago
And then you just use End Bringer with Verso every single turn or every other Verso turn if you have Cheater
Alexceptional
3 months ago
And the opponent never gets a chance to recover from stun
Alexceptional
3 months ago
So that was the strat all through phase 1, but then obviously with Berserk rage.... Renoir gets 2 turns in one so even if I continue the stun through 1 turn, he'll recover in his second turn no matter what
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Also I should mention
Alexceptional
3 months ago
End Bringer is broken. It is not doing what it is intended to do
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Stun continuation is only supposed to work if Verso's in A Rank, but in its current state it works just as well in S rank
Alexceptional
3 months ago
However, even if this was fixed, you can use Leadership on his first turn and then End Bringer in the second to ensure he stays in A rank for End Bringer
Alexceptional
3 months ago
This is, again, assuming you use Cheater pictos
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Obviously if you use Leadership, you're losing a damage pool turn. But it's a small sacrifice to make to ensure the thing your fighting that can one shot you stays incapacitated
Alexceptional
3 months ago
THAT said lol
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I do love my current team's build
Alexceptional
3 months ago
So long as the thing is stunned it's basically
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Verso free aim shoots until no more AP, gets Powerful/Shell/Rush in doing so. Then Base Attack back up to full AP and applies Defenseless/Powerless. Second Verso turn uses End Bringer so long as Stun is ongoing
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Maelle literally just does Swift Stride in turn 1, Gommage turn 2
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Monoco enforces Slow and Break Point if stun wore off, alternatively just Creation Void if I have a turn available to just deal damage with him
Alexceptional
3 months ago
So... I'm not optimized at all with pictos. Maelle's build needs work in particular
Alexceptional
3 months ago
But with all of that, we're looking at about 25-40mil damage per round
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I really need to optimize Maelle lol
Alexceptional
3 months ago
She's been on the backburner with this "solo" run
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Oh I should mention
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Verso is the one burning things for the above mentioned strat
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Using Burning shots
Alexceptional
3 months ago
If I can maintain stun, Maelle gommages. If I can't maintain stun or I mess up a turn then Gradient has to be held so Monoco can use Break Point, in which case Maelle starts Burn Stacking
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Hence 645, I was having her stack burns
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Although I gotta say, the return for that many stacks isn't like. Amazing
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I think each turn Renoir got he was taking ..... maybe 3 mil burn damage
Alexceptional
3 months ago
There's clearly a like damage ceiling with burn stacks. It's disappointing
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I'm gonna try with x50
Alexceptional
3 months ago
So he'll have ~550mil hp instead of 1.1bil lol
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Even at only x50
https://images.plurk.com/DEz118eyHjM3Op6FN2klK.png
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Okay so it took me 2 hours to defeat Renoir at x50
Alexceptional
3 months ago
And I don't feel like dealing with the Paintress at x50 lol
Alexceptional
3 months ago
A Paintress fight that takes 2 hours...
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I don't think I'll have the Rage issue with her (if I'm remembering the fight right?) that I did with Renoir
Alexceptional
3 months ago
So it might be a really painless, just long, long fight
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Verso-Monoco strat comin in hot
Alexceptional
3 months ago
What a duo
Alexceptional
3 months ago
You can't tell me the devs didn't build them up this way. They knew what they were doing lol
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Not gonna lie though
Alexceptional
3 months ago
The challenge mode multiplier makes these fights feel like how they're supposed to?
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Like they are arguably these "immortal" beings and it really should take hours to take them down, right?
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Idk it feels way better than without challenge mode
Alexceptional
3 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/6CwDkVu8MJVEKQRmjLJ0FD.png

Welp.
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I set her to 20x max hp. I didn't have the wherewithal to do another 2 hour fight
Alexceptional
3 months ago
It wasn't even a fair fight
Alexceptional
3 months ago
She can one shot me right
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Number of parries: 7, dodges: 0, damage taken: 30k
Alexceptional
3 months ago
She got 3 attacks off and spent the rest of the fight Stunned
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I thought, oh. Phase 2 she'll have a chance to recover and attack me again right
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Wrong!
Alexceptional
3 months ago
She kept the stunned status effect so she was Stunned for ALL of Phase 2
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Even if I set her to 50x or 100x, there's no challenge involved it's just a test of attention span
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I AM TOO POWERFUL
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I should have tried soloing her with just Verso lol
Alexceptional
3 months ago
STUCK WITH MY ORIGINAL PLAN BUT
Alexceptional
3 months ago
DAMN this team is just. Chef's kiss
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I can't wait to fight Simon
Alexceptional
3 months ago
And test this strat and these builds against him
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I have yet to fully polish off some of them but we are easily on our way
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Only difference with Simon is Maelle swapped for Lune
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I need Maelle with Sciel and I need her to one-shot Simon if at all possible
Alexceptional
3 months ago
I have a lot of work to do for Maelle's build
Alexceptional
3 months ago
She got sidelined hard this playthrough (for good reason)
Alexceptional
3 months ago
New burn record
https://images.plurk.com/2aGwSy8Gj3SXrCDGZlt7sS.png
Alexceptional
3 months ago
And I didn't use a single fire attack from Maelle
Alexceptional
3 months ago
It's all Verso burning shots and double burn and longer burn and Burning break
Alexceptional
3 months ago
Aaaaand Simoso helped too, of course
Alexceptional
2 months ago
LOL FUCKING RUDE https://images.plurk.com/4fQ4fgd4Ha54B90yraURmd.png
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