Whatson
4 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/5DzVHmH7T5yqjTY4ecSO4J.jpg the characters so far i feel nothing for, the pretentiousness of the style is annoying, but his alien world detail and setting is great. Spooky and unsettling, but like authentic biology.

The ecology parts is why i keep reading
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Whatson
4 months ago
The part where they're trying to uncover the alien ruins in the forest is great https://images.plurk.com/1k1Sc0FOIZLg8k3ajniIZd.jpg https://images.plurk.com/6V0QSnbOKbq8gl9XpTbE4g.jpg
Whatson
4 months ago
It's all very Nausicaa like, standing in a dim shadowed faraway world with your feet in unknown loam
Whatson
4 months ago
Gee, he sure does like saying "piss"
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Exacerangutan
3 months ago
......hm, i think i get what you mean about the pretentious style
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
Sentence fragments expressing abstract formulations. Exclusively in conspicuously elevated, polysyllabic diction.
Whatson
3 months ago
Uh, yeah what you said! Said much better than I.
Whatson
3 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/7FTx9gyTrrUH8VKKSE0BVI.jpg https://images.plurk.com/73ZoMxLKkkXoOLnUQXKoAd.jpg
This is nice. Very reminiscent of the "forerunner trilogy " from the Halo books.
Whatson
3 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/4jatuWM9YxFnWep7fWeDNA.jpg i like this
Whatson
3 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/5nxi9i6ghiangiVmUWls7b.jpg i hate this
Whatson
3 months ago
This motherfucker wrote "yeet"
Whatson
3 months ago
Whatson
3 months ago
I hate this. This motherfucker. Help me.
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
...I mean
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
.......there is a time and a place to use slang, when that's what you mean to do
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
but i'm guessing it's not exactly deployed artfully
Whatson
3 months ago
This fedora tippin, slang throwing, pretentiously pedantic denizen of the deep internet
Whatson
3 months ago
I hate it because it's good enough to keep reading, but i hate it because of the blatantly smug declaration that they know they are good enough to get the hooks into me
Whatson
3 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/uXp9QDIINWtl0CaKzN1yF.jpg WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN. Why even add "flash"? Why??
Whatson
3 months ago
My tormented soul
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
...I mean there are engineering applications where you would want to not just boil but flash-boil, but it's not clear from that sentence why it would matter, so it kind of has the taste of unnecessary technical jargon added to elevate diction
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
it sounds from that sentence like they're just talking about making distilled water, though, so...?
Whatson
3 months ago
Then maybe it's just me. Maybe it's too smart for me.
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
I can't really judge without broader context if it's actually getting at something, or just using big words for the thrill of using big words, but from that snippet it kinda sounds like the latter
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
...also the latter is a lot more common
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
could also be a middle road where he actually is doing something with it, but due to stylistic choices of what he does and doesn't explain, comes across as just being pretentious and/or condescending
CChuuni
3 months ago
"smart" no it is not.
CChuuni
3 months ago
yeah idk I can't help but see the obnoxious pretentious condescending as so annoying I want to yeet it away from me. Unironically that was the only part I liked :-D
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
yeah idk I'm skeptical but I also try very deliberately not to judge something I don't actually know
Whatson
3 months ago
Of course she did
Whatson
3 months ago
Oh okay it is the character. He was trying to write the character/narrator as a stuffy ass, but it's hard to differentiate the character and author
Whatson
3 months ago
The MC goes through a paradigm shift, so yeah
Whatson
3 months ago
:T
Whatson
3 months ago
Its good, i think.
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
...yeah I was kind of wondering if maybe they were just... over committing to the kayfabe of their first-person narrator's perspective, which is definitely a real danger with writing in first person
Whatson
3 months ago
Yes, it most certainly is unreliable narrator now
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
kinda like with the danger of satire being that you might not actually make it clear that you're doing satire, an unreliable first person narrator can be great but can also really get you in trouble
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
sometimes you can find ways to (figuratively) nudge the narrator's arm and make them tip their hand to the reader
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
let the audience know that you know that the narrator's full of shit
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
like how in the first Devil May Cry game, Dante is very obviously a massive dorky-ass himbo, and his attempts to be childishly ~cool~ regularly backfire or fall completely flat
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
which is what makes it fun, because he's a clown and you're invited to laugh at him and form a kind of affectionately unimpressed attitude toward him
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
...but then when he's written in some later media as just... actually being very cool and hip, he becomes really kinda boring and annoying
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
IMO anyway
Whatson
3 months ago
I get what you mean
Whatson
3 months ago
The problem is these people are so unlikeable, that when, oh
Whatson
3 months ago
SPOILERS FROM HERE ON
Whatson
3 months ago
Blank filler
Whatson
3 months ago
The problem is, when they finally go crazy from the alien biology, oOoOoOh, i just don't give a shit
Whatson
3 months ago
It doesn't jive. I don't care about them, and it's awkward and jittery
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
ahhh okay the Cloverfield Problem
Whatson
3 months ago
He builds this great cool alien world with unique biology that it seems he's going pure Herbert-esque and is writing hard scifi zoology, but he doesn't
Whatson
3 months ago
To me, IMO, he falls into the boring overdone trap of metaphysical scifi and tries to go deep into meaning
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
or whatever the movie was with the kaiju seen through the eyes of some really annoying yuppies who were so irritating when they started dying I wasn't horrified I was like "good at least they're gone now"
Whatson
3 months ago
.... i guess that's Herbert-esque too. BUT THAT'S WHY I STOPPED READING DUNE
Whatson
3 months ago
I guess it's not my thing. I want a tromp on an alien world, but it had to go farther
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
hrm
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
I mean I can't say much to generalizations obviously
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
but it sounds like it kinda pulls an Interstellar
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
where on the one hand they model gravitational lensing with such fidelity that it produced some significant astrophysics papers... and on the other hand it ends on the note of "gravity is made of interdimensional love backwards in time" or some such metaphysical horseshit that I guess would have been touching if I weren't so distracted by it making no sense
Whatson
3 months ago
*nod
Whatson
3 months ago
At this point i just want it to end. Im checked out. I'm too far to drop it. This is another Prometheus and its silly
Whatson
3 months ago
Another Annihilation
Whatson
3 months ago
Either it's not my thing or it's not too good. I don't know
MILI
3 months ago
I have a copy of this that I haven't read yet. From the comments I feel like if I'd read it years ago I'd have loved it, but the scifi metaphysics thing is a bit played out now. I'll still read it for the alien worldbuilding though.
Whatson
3 months ago
Oh geez. I feel bad about my commentary. Hopefully it isn't too critical.
MILI
3 months ago
No don't feel bad! I'm one of those people who never minds spoilers and likes critical commentary. Yours was mild, believe me.
MILI
3 months ago
I will still read it and it might be that I completely disagree with you, or else that I think you're right but still get some enjoyment out of the book.
Whatson
3 months ago
.... i may or may not have deleted a plurk before this one where i may or may not have used naughty language. I wrote a book myself and hope to join this community of popular authors someday, after all
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
I mean this is why I try to hedge my statements in terms of how things look to me/etc and be as specific and rigorous as I can--or be explicit that I can't be specific and rigorous for whatever vibes-based reason
Exacerangutan
3 months ago
I try and keep my criticism to something that, if it turned out the writer were reading/hearing it, I wouldn't be like "oh no I shouldn't have said that"... because tbh at that point it's probably not really great analysis anyways, yanno? that said I also think we've all been in a bitey mood while interacting with something and it colors our reading
Whatson
3 months ago
At this point i want to drop it. It's dragging on and I'm weary of it. But I've come so faaaaar
Whatson
3 months ago
Yech. Eugh. I finished it. I have regrets.
Whatson
3 months ago
Note to future self: if you want to drop the book, drop the fucking book
Whatson
3 months ago
IT'S NEVER WORTH IT
CChuuni
3 months ago
/chinhands
Whatson
3 months ago
As she enjoys me suffering!
CChuuni
3 months ago
CChuuni
3 months ago
But I did tell you to drop it after the FIRST PAGE
CChuuni
3 months ago
Like I liked Lolita where the narrator is a monster on Trumpian levels of sociopathy and derangement (and child molestation and murder...) buuuuut
CChuuni
3 months ago
it was funny more than annoying
CChuuni
3 months ago
I do think it is also useful to grow and etc.
CChuuni
3 months ago
and you're nicer than me I'm savage
Whatson
3 months ago
You're lucky you are cute
Whatson
3 months ago
Yes yes i know. I should have. To be fair we get benefits from reading things we don't like, as in experience, but life is short and i don't like suffering
CChuuni
3 months ago
yes (LOL) well at least you know to STOP FAST Now
Whatson
3 months ago
Yes but if i need help make sure to 'distract' me away, would you?
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