Axe Goth Real?
4 months ago
There is a certain irony in the fact that the notion of "ChatGPT scrapes the SCP Foundation, and begins to cause schizotypal disorders in some of its users" is, of itself, an concept that would make sense as an SCP entry.A Prominent OpenAI Investor Appears to Be Suffering ...
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trick or trick
4 months ago
i truly do not think chatgpt can cause schizotypal disorders i think it is just exacerbating them in a way that previously did not exist
trick or trick
4 months ago
i feel fucking horrible for people who get caught up in this
Axe Goth Real?
4 months ago
That actually would be a more accurate way to phrase it.
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Axe Goth Real?
4 months ago
And yeah I realize I phrased it somewhat pithily but this is horrifying in terms of ramifications.
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
yeah the thing about schizotypal disorders is that they can easily just be latent for someone's entire life until the right trigger comes along and tips the balance from "brain gets a little flighty under pressure, sometimes" into full-on "cannot perceive reality reliably anymore" mode, and usually that takes something that actively breaks their ability
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
to like, believe in or comprehend a baseline within their own mind of what "reality" or "normal" is and say "this thing that i'm experiencing or learning about can't belong in the real world"
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
and we are already in a cultural moment where our previous expectations for what can be understood as "normal" are all in rupture, or proving fraudulent, already, and then you add in the pervasiveness and false persuasiveness of LLM hallucinations--
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
well.
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
that said, i will note that the other reason this is propagating so rapidly among the techbro enclaves is that many of them are taking copious amounts of psychotropic drugs and pursuing multiple forms of snake-oil pseudoscience and mysticism already, in attempts to "expand their minds" and "unlock their evolutionary potential".
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
they're also pursuing that for the same reasons a lot of like. "celebrity" figures wind up falling into objectivism and scientology and other cults: being under that much scrutiny and that much social pressure to perform, while conversely having so little of that performance be the result of any actual productive exertion, makes you bored and lonely.
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
they're alienated, isolated, they have no way to fill the screaming in the back of their brain telling them they always have to justify their idleness, their detachment, the unearned attention, the level to which their ego exceeds their actual relevance or societal value. and they don't want to stop thinking they can keep being "successful" like this.
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
so they don't do anything that actually contributes to the world around them because they feel too disconnected from it. and also, they're not trying to be humble in a real sense, they're trying to flatter themselves enough that they don't have to consider how little they've actually made of their lives.
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
so they seek out options that will tell them, instead, that the world revolves around them, that the world is what they want it to be. and LLMs will do exactly that, nothing but that, and double down on it to an exponentially feedback-looping degree, because "returning the results they're prompted to return" is what they're designed for.
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
and when you have no grounding in other people's lives, you have no ground beneath your feet but the ground you put there. and they've chosen quicksand, because it's easier than looking around. and it's killing them.
skulltaffy 💀
4 months ago
yeah im ngp, that's the thing that scares me the most about llms
skulltaffy 💀
4 months ago
*ngl
skulltaffy 💀
4 months ago
how easy it is to trap people in loops of bad feedback because how can you safely argue against the Confirmation Bias Printer
skulltaffy 💀
4 months ago
bc this is about rich people who put themselves in this position but it can just add easily get others who are similarly primed to believe anything they're told bc of isolation, like elderly relatives who get all their info from facebook because they're retired and have no physical community
sarkazexpletive
4 months ago
yeah
trick or trick
4 months ago
it's so unbelievably bleak in ways i had not previously thought possible. the world is worse than i had the capacity to imagine.
creature
4 months ago
thank you for that, this is all. a lot
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