Explanation: Rating a character's attractiveness from 1-10 as described here.
"The pie" is an incident where Walter attacked and butchered Arthur with the purpose of cannibalizing him like Sweeney Todd.

I MEANT LOSE

50 characters was barely enough to type

this is "your character's" rating obviously

I mean Lark has also eaten people so...

Iris is grossed out by it and thought his reasons were nuts

ALL OF THEM WHAT THE FUCK WALTER

Walter has only come to really, truly think that he would not do the same thing all over again because he sees no fundamental difference between it and being a warden (derogatory). I am sorry Iris.

Walter: Lark you're a real one

I don'

t think CK was in game yet but he wouldn't give a shit

Vash was not in the game yet AND HE GIVES A SHIT WALTER GODDAMN

And he wasn't Tendi's type plus she didn't know him well so I don't think she had an attractiveness score for him in the first place? But, uh, it definitely would've dropped if she did. By quite a lot.

for the people who are curious about his reasons
the incident physically happening
aftermath discussion
final confrontation

in summary, Walter genuinely thought the Sweeney Todd reference taken WAY TOO FAR was the only way to save his canonmate who had been abused and brainwashed here, as in she literally said in canon that choosing to stay in a cult compound and deny that it's kidnapping was clearly being coerced and brainwashed

Yelena actively dislikes Arthur, but Walter still would've hit the negatives if she'd ever found out about the cannibalism pie thing.

Like, just...what the fuck?

On so many levels, what the fuck?

JUST LOCK THE MAN IN A CLOSET WALTER JESUS CHRIST

someday like a year from now someone is going to mention it and so many people still on the Barge are going to just hiimdaisy why

ten months later
it ALMOST dropped because Thrawn baited Arthur into writing it in the ledger (I'm not sure if this was intentional but it sure is what happened)
but it never dropped for real

reflected in his glasses AS SHE WEARS NAT'S JACKET. season 3 hadn't come out at the time but I love season 3. I remember the simpler times in the middle of season 3 where there was speculation that Walter killed Lottie just to create a mystery for Misty. but no. I believed because I knew. that is no true mystery.

Ethan and Hanna were both like and I don't think ethan truly learned what happened but he was upset about it via John

Ethan still finds things attractive about Walter but thats because if they did hook up he wouldnt have him keeping those fucking cargo shorts on for long.

this is Wasty also. the cycle of Nasty and Wisty

Walter is saying this to her

John has honestly dealt with some horrible things happening to Arthur and dealing with it but this was the one where he went 'WTeverlovingF'

Hakkai: That depends on how well it was cooked, actually.

If he took some pride in his work and made a well spiced gravy, neutral to positive. Just throwing human meat in a pie crust for shock value, it goes down.

(zyl is firmly on the "cannibalism is unattractive" side of things)

my characters in the present moment if they knew:
Erskine: if he was attracted to him would go up because it's funny
Fitz: gets very deep into the negatives
Mikodez: neutrality continues
Armand: also thinks it's funny and is willing to be attracted to anyone

Armand attraction could also contribute to make Walter regret

this is how you get real change: reaction to Armand approving of something

Unfortunately, Hakkai, while Walter took pride in it, his opportunity was on the Enposib where there are little cooking bots, so it's pretty close to the other end of the spectrum. 😔 To be honest, the timetable was pretty short, so his ability to spice would be limited. But if Hakkai understood it as doing extreme things for the people you love, funny.

Will already was at 0 attractiveness for Walter, so it couldn't go lower, tbh.

1/10 cannibalism. no style, not gourmet, made work for my partner while on vacation.

Hakkai fully does understand it as "extreme actions for the people you love" although also he does have some sensitivity around cannibalism

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I need you to know that at 5 votes out of 9 we only just managed to scrape together a 5+ majority

ashton isn't attracted to walter but if they were the pie thing would've made him more attractive. unfortunately it hits a really specific cross-section of COMPLETELY FUCKING DERANGED BEHAVIOR, doing said behavior with style, and also the cannibalism

as the cannibal victim, the only thing that stopped Arthur from breaking walters nose every time he saw him on the Narrenschiff was pure wardenly duty

Ashton is just a little too undead for Walter's taste. more than a little actually

love how this implies that if they weren't undead it'd be different

they'd be an incredibly different person at that point so it is hard to say

for the record no one even ingested anything in the cannibal incident. but there was cooking

I feel bad for so much of his inmate positive CR never finding out. It is on him. But look at how much distant/negative warden CR found out. After a certain point he just took it for granted that it was over

Trying to keep it under wraps where he could does make sense!

Norton would think it's violent, terrible, and totally nuts and also Walter's attractiveness would go up. Because Norton has issues and among them is being physically attracted violent, terrible, and kind of nuts.

I was waiting for Norton to come in for "it actually went up"

WHO IS THE THIRD ONE HELLO???

Norton pls.

Don’t... encourage this sort of behaviour with blowjobs.

^ real things Norton has probably been told more than once in his life, including Torchwood disciplinary conversations, such as they are.

Sebastian is the third one!

He doesn't do attraction, really, but he thought the whole incident was hilarious.

Humans are so awful <3

There's an audio where Norton spends a long time basically going "Should I hook up with the nice journalist or the man who tortured me? I can't decide!"

Can i guess what he decided?

Listen. Listen. Misty did say "not because of this but because I am taken". The chips fall where they may

awwww listen Walter she really does care about you