10 Stages in the Treatment of Narcissistic Disorders
1 - patience
2 - get in their head
3 - weaponize your own radical empathy both intelligently and MORALLY to flip their DARVO into understanding the truth
4 - extreme amounts of gaslighting guides
5 - always remember who the victims are and separate them from the flying monkeys

What 'Flying Monkeys' Mean When We Talk About Narcis...<- that

The 5 Things You Need to Do If You're Dealing With a...

6 - firm boundaries ALWAYS. You should never capitulate to appease the narcissist, that will not help them and it will hurt you; but as we are seeing with Trump it even hurts OTHERS because the narcissist then expects it more and more and it is never fucking enough

7 - Perspective. A] Both yourself and B] the world and C] the narcissist. REALITY.Positive Self Talk for a Better LifeLove radically all GOOD things in others and without demeaning the narcissist; attempt to establish what they define as good things and NEUTRALLY / SLOWLY get them to explain why and whether/why it matters

(Brought to you by Uriel who is EXTREMELY into philosophical debates and baby bro who is same and trying to help someone through their ~issues~)

8 -What are personality disorders?

Knowledge is power. And power is strength and resilience because you can find the way to get it. There are a BILLION techniques for stone-facing and disassociating, compartmentalizing etc.

There are many times I keep thinking "should I have done x? Could Y have helped?" even though it was 30+ years ago and/or re: the making of a narcissist etc. and disentangling them

Remember you're never alone in it. It helps a lot to get what you need WAY before you can begin to figure out what someone else ACTUALLY needs especially when they think it is anything but

Mixed Personality Disorder: Causes, Symptoms, and Tr.../mild staring at the MPD section

/thousand mile stare

https://www.med.wisc.edu...

i hear you- but what if said narcissist is making it their personal mission to destroy your family?

(also a reminder that all things are spectra, especially psychological diagnoses, and this is about very highly pathological narcissists who've leaned into the narcissism and let it dominate their way of relating to other people in an extremely harmful way, not an "open season on anyone with some narcissistic traits" thing)

ya

Babe answer your signal

........Signal like the app?

woodrift: that is how they do. There are literal support groups for NPD family members because of the the high overlap with emotional terrorists

....or like a big lamp you shine into the sky?

woops sorry, I was charging my phone

the app

I would swear that reality is stalking me but it's fine, it knows I'm stalking it

silverwolfcc: Yes it's literally emotional terrorism at this point, the one in my life is highly malignant but extremely superficially charming

it's freakish

atm I'm dealing with Metabolism Fuckery and Sensory Fuckery

on top of /waves hand

ugh

Everyone please tell Kyle I'm fine I just need sleep, and reading

woodrift: Yeah so mine (back when -- not CURRENTLY A PROBLEM MAAAAAAAAAAYBE - always fucking hard to tell because relapses amirite) has a weird magic capacity to convince people of the most insane surreal BIZARRE fucking lies

Very Azula.

saaaaaaame on this end

i think it's part of the condition

100%

They're eating the cats and dogs

yeah i think it's mainly the ability to self-convince, people tend to accept things they're told with confidence, especially if the parts that contradict reality aren't explicitly stated