each player can only app up to 5 chars at aa time

Char, Zechs, Harry, Graham, and Nero Tol Scaeva

honestly you could sustain quite a number of players with a rule of 1 or 2 Chars a piece

A game of only Chars. The app is just an argument over how the character is a Char

violently crashing into this plurk to insist that harry is not a char

he's incredibly clearly the guy filling out the self-referential archetype

flare_sword: valid but my other controversial pick was Katejina

he's a very different character but so are most of them

is Quattro a Char

he is, in fact

Quattro is rather,

the reason the terminology is "a Char"

Harry is a rare instance of a character that only had things in common with Quattro Bajeena and not Char Aznable

apps charmander

I’ll allow only if charmander wears a mask

katejina needs a mask to be "a char" i think

slightly more tepid take: dorothy catalonia is a katejina

I have very funny suggestions for chars but no one will understand them

kusaka masato is a char

wait does this mean Cubone is also a Char

Does it? I dunno polemon well enough

i feel like there are multiple vectors of Charness

- phenomenal cosmic powers (generally newtype or otherwise just self-insert levels of good at piloting mechs and/or oral sex)
- mask (at the very least some cool shades or something)
- chronic backstabber disease
- red

- narrative foil to the hero

being a foil is very important too, yes

knew i was forgetting something

you can't really be a char and be the hero, it doesn't work that way

- three times faster

my hot char take is that Schwarz Bruder is not the main char of G Gundam

Master Asia is

my general attitude is that you need at least two of Mask, Signature Color, Fake Name, and Cool Rival

he just deflects by not having a mask

master asia does fit the "two of" rule
fake name, cool rival

and schwarz has the other two

Speed Build, Blond/White Hair, and Sibling On Opposing Side pop up pretty often too but only count for bonus points if you already have two or more of those four

oh yeah

also important

Ulube tried to get in on it by being a backstabbing masked guy who tries to drop a colony but that didn't really pan out

Real talk on Victory though I think I can best describe my take on the situation there as Surprise Char (Katejina) and Decoy Char (Chronicle), since the latter has the mask and the complicated family

Chronicle is 1000% a Jerid though

I've seen Jerid and Jerid clones on lists of Chars and it's like. go to jail

words (names?) MEAN THINGS

The whole bit with Jerid was just "okay but what if the rival character just sucked ass this time"

It's a completely different archetype in every sense except him and the protagonist being recurring personal problems for each other

what if a guy was a total pathetic dickhead loser with negative charisma

and SRW kept making him recruitable for reasons beyond imagining--

Huh, it's been a while since Recruitable Jerid hasn't it?

The Chronicle/Katejina war crimes duo less so, sadly

I think it happened in VXT at least once

or rather I know it did but it may have been more than once

Honestly thought it was back in GBA

Eugh

And then in ZZ you have Mashymre who's just the pathetic recurring antagonist from one of Tomino's comedies transplanted into Gundam but I don't think anyone ever mistook him for a Char

just V

V gives you Jerid and Yazan

I need to actually play V just to see what possible context exists for this

I didn't actually meet the requirements so all I remember is that they showed up on a stage and the good guys lectured them a bit

I’d list Darth Vader but honestly by the timeline Char is a Vader rather than the reverse

Darth Vader was a masked ace pilot in 1977, but he wasn't related to the protagonists in public knowledge until 1980

Time is a circle

Oh *psychic super warrior can go on the pile for things known about him before 1979 too I guess

Newtypes and (ex-)Jedi come from the same sci fi archetype even if they're treated differently thematically

Yeah MSG isn’t like a Star Wars knock off but it probably has a bit of Star Wars in its dna

Realistically it's pulling from the same well of inspiration and had the creators starting from a similar context of "I want to put my own spin and ideas on this existing genre"

Shared affinity for mid-century sci fi and Kurosawa

And unaddressed cultural anxiety over World War II albeit from different cultures

Liquid Snake: Fake Name, Cool Rival, Blond Hair, Sibling On Opposing Side. Liquid Snake is a Char.

MSG in MGS

He disguises himself as another guy using sunglasses for 80% of MGS1

If they'd had time to paint REX it'd have been red

yeah. he has the shades, liquid is full char

"Shot down two jets in a helicopter" is also a very Char Did This Off-Camera statement

There is also the option of sharing Char's voice actor

Like Durandal

I don't think Shuuichi Ikeda alone should count because Lahabrea Finalfantasyxiv has that AND a mask and that feels insulting to Char

Not by himself, but as another factor