SJ San Juan
15 years ago
If I'm building a movement, what should it focus on? Should it concern itself with single issues, or focus on grand narratives?
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sparkeh
15 years ago
movements by definition can only be issue-specific
sparkeh
15 years ago
grand narratives = revolutions
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
Sabagay. Hahahaha
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AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
maybe start small? define core values and then go after "doable" concerns?
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
I want to meet up on this.
AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
game ako diyan ^_^
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
I made some informal rounds among friends on RH and on how this should be passed this year. Maybe we can build on that.
sparkeh
15 years ago
the reproductive justice movement in the philippines has been over a decade in the making
sparkeh
15 years ago
last year was the closest the rh bill ever got to being passed
sparkeh
15 years ago
last year was the 1st time ever rh became a household issue. i think it has a good chance of passing in the 15th congress :-))
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
I don't play dice, Sparks :-)
sparkeh
15 years ago
sjsanjuan: dude, anong laban mo sa isang tawag ng cardinal sa malacanang? (unsure)
sparkeh
15 years ago
one call was all it took to derail the magna carta - after it passed bicam. one fucking call
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
Kaya nga, caffeinesparks. That means our hope is not in gov't, but should be in the people.
AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
(thinking)
AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
Hm. And more hm.
sparkeh
15 years ago
if i had the private line of the president, hell ill be calling her everyday too. question is, will my voice weigh more than a cardinal's?
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
Republic Act No. 6735
AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
caffeinesparks: not your voice, perhaps. But if enough voices say the same thing, it might drown out even the posturing of Cardinals.
AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
one voice against something so... monolithic as the Church (to give an example) might not budge a president
AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
but... a whole movement. In this day and age of alternative media and flash mobs... call me an idealist or a dreamer...
AzurePhoenix
15 years ago
... (still, after everything?) but it. just. might. have. a. chance (LOL)
sparkeh
15 years ago
which is why im optimistic for the 15th congress...because since july 08 rh has become mainstream
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
I'm not :-) They'll drag their feet, then wait til the last minute to drop RH like a hot camote.
sparkeh
15 years ago
well, there's the 16th congress :-)
sparkeh
15 years ago
the money isn't going to run out for this lobby. population politics is too important for countries like australia
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
Yun nga. But I think we should allow the people a more direct way of being involved.
sparkeh
15 years ago
like...?
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
RA6735
sparkeh
15 years ago
pina-google pa talaga ko
sparkeh
15 years ago
referendum? ang mahal naman yata
sparkeh
15 years ago
papayagin muna ang powers that be para mag-referendum
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
As you said, money won't stop flowing for these kinds of advocacies.
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
And people will actually get involved here, so no room for maneuvering and backroom arm-twisting.
sparkeh
15 years ago
sige - ilagay sa advocacy report - sinuhulan sina so and so para mag-referendum (doh)
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
Bakit kailangang suhulan? It's the people who will push for it. We need to involve the people, so they will have a stake on it. So they will
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
fight for it if people up there short-circuit their process.
sparkeh
15 years ago
a luxury people dont have
sparkeh
15 years ago
ang hirap na nga humagilap ng manonood ng sessions na may rh sa agenda eh (unsure)
sparkeh
15 years ago
ah well. you're a dreamer - dream on :-)
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
Yes, I am. And I would like to believe that people, if properly motivated, will take action. Trust in their innate capability.
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
And that's why we'll bring the issue down to their communities, where they live. They don't need to go in Congress.
sparkeh
15 years ago
what makes you think the issue isn't already there?
sparkeh
15 years ago
if you give condoms et al for free - people living in squatter areas wont refuse them in the name of god
sparkeh
15 years ago
ask carlos celdran. he's been doing it for years
SJ San Juan
15 years ago
Same way I think why politicos who claim to have the support of so-so are talking bullcrap. Grassroots organizing!
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