it's a usability issue. new plurk get mixed up easily with old plurk in a timeline UI.

and there's really no way to separate them because there's really no way to decide which plurk has been read and which has not.

unacceptable

but it auto-updates replies... just not new plurks!

how about highlighting the unread plurks?

ryan: like i said, how do you decide which plurk is unread?

some indication, like how the reply count is right now

i read plurk without even hovering or clicking on them.

unread... they're all unread. Most the time you can't read the plurk until you click on it.

actually you dont really have to click on it. hovering it gives you the full plurk.

currently if they are unread, the plurk count is highlighted in red/pink

yeah, diff color or something until you hit reload/clear, then it assumes it is read.

I'm friggin lazy, and I hate havin to click update.

yeah but you could have still read it without doing anything and it will still be highlighted.

that's fine... at least I see it.

I don't like that the system knows there's a new plurk.. but it won't show it to me until I click update

/me sets opera to reload every 30 secs.

to put it another way, some users do like it when they can control when a new stream of new plurks will flow in their timeline.

HAH, I beat the system

but you do bring up an interesting point. it's all about the tradeoff.

going to start an internal discussion about this.

well.... start putting them to the left --- up on the timeline

then make me scroll left to see them.

just remember my point on the timeline.

you mean hide them intentionally?

no. Continue plotting the new plurks as they come in...

but keep me at the time when I last hit update... 4:39pm

does that make sense?

so you will still have to hit update?

nono...

keep me at my last point in the timeline.

when I last hit refresh... or whereever I left it while I was draggin the timeline

how do you know when's your last point?

last time you refresh/visit plurk?

yah. That's how it is right now, right...?

the timeline just doesn't continue left until I hit update.

ah i see what you mean. but like i said, you will still have old plurks that are highlighted

I like that idea. Let the plurk timeline keep on rollin' --- give me an option to auto follow it as time rolls on, or keep me in my place.

sure... keep highlighting the plurks that new comments come in on etc

ok. here's why we dont do auto update. you have 5 new plurks coming in. we highlight them. you read them without 'touching' on the plurk

next stream comes in and you get say 10, so now you have 15 highlighted plurk.

to remove the highlight, you have to touch/hover over them.

this might not seem much at first, but after 10 or 15 minutes, it feels like an arcade shooting game, just to get rid of the highlight.

if you dont bring in highlight, then old and new plurks are the same. leaving you having to hunt them down everytime.

but you already have that problem

mark all as read

--- with the responses.

well you cant actually read the responses unless you click on them

so that's why we highlight it red. so there's a sure way to decide whether you have read it.

this discussion did lead me to add a simple tweak. clicking mark all as read will now bring you back to main timeline automatically.

hopes bieber is at least a little bit happier .