A lot of the arguments I've been seeing about her are all focused on her not being 'awesome enough' to be champ or whatever

I'm not 100% sure she does end up champ, as that seems to have mixed info at the moment

but there's a lot of 'whaaa why isn't N champ, Belle's so much lamer'

and really it seems like the main reason she's 'lamer' is because she has a vag

dear *everyone* check your damn misogyny at the door

If you cannot manage to find anything admirable in any female who is not a tomboy, you're a jackass

I... I

am thinking third game ;A; but seriously fuck the haters

third game?

isn't Pokemon the story of a cheerful, enthusiastic kid becoming champion

which is

exactly what belle is

Well certainly the animu is, the games less so

Nah I'd say the games too

I mean I do not think I'm being oversensitive if I see 'well N or Cheron would be way better than Belle' b/c I auto-tack on

"Because she's a girl"

All the protagonists' official art bar maybe red portray them as cheerful-looking kids

Cheron is ... well he's an ass. Ayndin's been playing through and you basically have to facestomp him to get him to go after Plasma w/ you

...hahaha seriously

He's just a lot more apathetic about the sort of stuff that the PC gets up into, Belle is very altruistic

she spends a lot of her appearances doing bodyguard work, helping people, etc

That is what a Champ should be!

I think eventually Cheren participates in more Team Plasma smackdowns than Belle does, but... goddamn that sounds awesome

Especially since B/W has put a looot more emphasis on the fact that gym leaders get out and do shit

Yeah.

Cheren's character arc is about learning that, from what I've read.

Yeah, still, Belle comes to the party with a lot of natural awesome on that front

Just hearing stuff like 'Belle doesn't strike me as champion material' or 'Belle doesn't seem to have the drive' etc

Yeah. And like I said, she has the same 'feel' as your average protagonist, albeit she looks a little derpier

It's soooo easy to just tack on 'because she is a girl and acts like one'

...yeah the "she doesn't seem to have the drive" thing confuses me

SHE RUNS AWAY FROM HOME TO TRY AND BECOME THE CHAMPION.

HOW DOES THAT INDICATE NOT HAVING DRIVE.

This

Though I think a lot of it also has to do with N's fanbase being completely fucking terrible.

I really like what I've heard of him and I'm all CANNOT WAIT YOUR STORY SOUNDS AMAZING

but god I hate his fans so much

(well, most of them, there are some cool ones)

i suppose I should specify "the ones that come from the fact that he's a prettyboy and not because he has an interesting story"

I mean I definitely like his character design and he has a really interesting story

I also have a well known weaknesses to boys w/ one letter names!

But if you're just loving on him because he's a uterus melting bishyboy with dark pokemons, gtfo

yeah, I like N for the first point

...also he doesn't have exclusively dark pokemons, he has a different team every time you fight him

because he releases them after he battles you, Ithink

Still, I stand by the fact that he's just so dark and broody and shit. I think we're just going to see a lot of crap about him

I don't really get a broody feel off him, though I do think his expressions seem intentionally kind of creepy

I'm... dreading seeing him RPed, tbh

Yeah, I am definitely happy I'm largely not into RP at the moment because I would probably stab my eyes out seeing him RPed

There's one person who I actually trust to RP him and that's because she puts a lot of thought into her characters and doesn't ship

Mmm, anything in particular about the portrayal? Man he really does seem interesting though

I haven't really seen them play him yet

but they play OCs that are actually good and they do a pretty amazing Special!Sapphire

-also belle gets that hardcore chandelier Pokemon.

WHY ARE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT HER.

that chandelier is fucking spatking beatass. Basically they are whining b/c she's a girly-girl for my money

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they totally are

or they're whining because she's not another asshole rival

Alternately...

There wasn't any whining about Cynthia, right?

Maybe it's less because she's a girl, and more because she's not a "cool" girl. She's cute, but it's a dorky kind of cute...

so they looked at belle and were like

I CAN'T FAP TO THIS

Pretty much

The only ladies people wanna fight are the same ones they wanna bang. :V

Also Cynthia wears pants which means she's a girl and not a GIIIIIIRL because no real woman wears a dress.

B |

...also while I think Belle looks dorky cute now, she looks like she's going to grow up hot

i mean

dem hips

As soon as I saw Belle I knew people were going to bitch about her, and even more so when she was revealed to be Champion.

They tend to be the same people who bitch whenever a new game isn't an RBGY expansion pack.

Jaydeis: Generally I think when people complain about a girl not being 'cool' they are hating on a certain type of girl

the people who were saying YAY! about Cynthia were saying it's because she's 'badass' which is of course a 'male' trait

well belle seems badass too

i mean you team up with her and iris to take out some team plasma bitches

but Belle wears a dress, so she can't POSSIBLY be badass

it's just that she doesn't LOOK badass