pookaseraph
15 years ago
[DN] I feel a little silly but I have finally read DN:AN
latest #83
pookaseraph
15 years ago
I am still processing it, but it's difficult to see it as really useful for characterization b/c of how abstract it is
pookaseraph
15 years ago
It's Mello writing something L told him that was related to *him* from Naomi, possibly only via report
pookaseraph
15 years ago
oh yes, and of course Naomi is observing B, mimicking L, who he has never met.
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pookaseraph
15 years ago
/brainbreak
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
Hahaha ikr
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
I'm not even sure how the Change the WorLd book will work with Mello as a narrator, it'll probably be just as bad
mango diequiri
15 years ago
HAHAHA
mango diequiri
15 years ago
the narration in DN:AN DEFINES unreliable
mango diequiri
15 years ago
so yeah re: L it's pretty useless /patpat
mango diequiri
15 years ago
O: there's a new book??
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
I don't know how new it is, I gather it's a novelization of the L movie?
hilda
15 years ago
man that L movie was so much crack
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
It totally was, but it was worth it to see L being a semi-fail babysitter
mango diequiri
15 years ago
sob I still haven't watched that
mango diequiri
15 years ago
I don't remember where I put it orz /stares at files that are a mess dkfjldkf
pookaseraph
15 years ago
It is an amazing much watch, so delicious
pookaseraph
15 years ago
I'm going to pick it and the novelization up soon I hope
pookaseraph
15 years ago
DN:AN ... idk how to analyze it. Maybe over a few weeks I'll try harder but the first look was just /confuse
mango diequiri
15 years ago
hahahaha yeah it's kind of
mango diequiri
15 years ago
like you said it's full of THIS PERSON HEARD FROM THIS PERSON VIA THIS PERSON....
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
I also need to reread once I have the opportunity, I'll try to help /o/
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
It's amazing people can even RP as Beyond Birthday like that, but LOL he still has more characterization than Matt
pookaseraph
15 years ago
Well I think you have to make an assumption on how L got the information from Naomi the most
pookaseraph
15 years ago
like on a unspoiled first read, you'd think 'L got it b/c he was there, investigating with her'
pookaseraph
15 years ago
but then you realize he really really wasn't
mango diequiri
15 years ago
hahaha sob
mango diequiri
15 years ago
I tried apping Matt once
pookaseraph
15 years ago
some very strange things, like Naomi's massive hate-on for 'Rue Ryuzaki' and his freakishness come through
pookaseraph
15 years ago
but you'd think that's something L wouldn't want to admit about himself (as BB is imitating him)
mango diequiri
15 years ago
HAHAHA
mango diequiri
15 years ago
yeahhhhhhhh
mango diequiri
15 years ago
Naomi's just like
mango diequiri
15 years ago
OH GOD HE'S SO WEIRD
mango diequiri
15 years ago
OH GOD
mango diequiri
15 years ago
really the POV distribution makes no sense at all
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
Maybe Mello got the information from Naomi instead, after briefly hearing about it from L
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
(and yes I mean post-mortem, I imagine she wrote a report or in a diary or w/e)
mango diequiri
15 years ago
... that could be possible I suppose :|a
mango diequiri
15 years ago
aaa you guys make me want to reread DN
mango diequiri
15 years ago
again
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
Hahaha <3
mango diequiri
15 years ago
:'-(
pookaseraph
15 years ago
So my first thought is: things that Near could verify that Mello says directly are probably 98%+ true
mango diequiri
15 years ago
... /tries to parse this sentence
mango diequiri
15 years ago
/fails
mango diequiri
15 years ago
;;; what do you mean
pookaseraph
15 years ago
oh, sorry um ...
pookaseraph
15 years ago
when Mello is talking 'at the reader/Near' I think we can assume that he is telling the truth
pookaseraph
15 years ago
at least about things like 'Wammy's House is like this' 'the kids are like that'
pookaseraph
15 years ago
at the very least I expect them to be his 99-100% accurate impressions of what is
mango diequiri
15 years ago
OH
mango diequiri
15 years ago
yeah from the setup at the beginning? I'd expect most of it to be true as far as HE knew
mango diequiri
15 years ago
so yes
pookaseraph
15 years ago
I need to double check but there's also some ... wishywashiness of when Mello's writing
mango diequiri
15 years ago
... what do you mean? O:
pookaseraph
15 years ago
iirc he says something about being 'Mello who died like a dog' or something
pookaseraph
15 years ago
which would be ... um ... interesting
pookaseraph
15 years ago
b/c that implies writing post-death >_>;;
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
HE'S A GHOST
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
BOO!
pookaseraph
15 years ago
/punch
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
/ow
pookaseraph
15 years ago
but anyway, I think he must be writing strictly from L's perspective of what he knows about the events
pookaseraph
15 years ago
w/ Naomi's impressions coming through L
pookaseraph
15 years ago
I'm also curious why L picked those things to tell Mello, and what that says about their relationshp
mango diequiri
15 years ago
hahaha sob re: the death thing
pookaseraph
15 years ago
he apparently tells Mello his (1) origin story (2) BB Case (3) Bioterror case that earns him 2 more names
mango diequiri
15 years ago
idk I always interpreted it as 'right before he made that dumb suicide plan to kidnap Takada'
mango diequiri
15 years ago
'so if he dies then someone finds this'
mango diequiri
15 years ago
but it's up for debate :\a
mango diequiri
15 years ago
oh yeah FFFF I really want to hear about the other two cases too. but it's interesting that L ended up telling him about them
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
That's possible, Fyre... it's also possible that L 'told' him post-mortem too
mango diequiri
15 years ago
oho
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
By leaving some sort of records behind
mango diequiri
15 years ago
hum. I thought it was implied somewhere int he book that he met L face-to-face but
mango diequiri
15 years ago
I'd need to reread
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
It is, yes
pookaseraph
15 years ago
yes, he does
pookaseraph
15 years ago
Mello says he's 'one of the few who met L as L'
pookaseraph
15 years ago
(which to me meant that he's one of the few who met L and knew he was L at the time he met him)
pookaseraph
15 years ago
99 for me \o
shrimp happens🦐 says
15 years ago
'night <3
mango diequiri
15 years ago
night!
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