manx has
14 years ago
a firm belief: Freedom does not drive creativity. Constraints inspire invention.
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gracemcdunnough
14 years ago
agreed.
gracemcdunnough
14 years ago
well, as long as constraint is not coupled with complacency.
Nikki
14 years ago
bullshit :-D
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Nestra
14 years ago
thought it was necessity
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
I agree, the constraint is needed to limit the infinite choices to ones that can be dealt with. I think is is why 'schools of art' work
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
so well. People can explore 'inside' the boundaries and they also have a context.
manx
14 years ago
this is one of the problems of SL. it's too UNlimited.
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
Interesting point
Clinton says
14 years ago
constraints and competition drive innovation. Freedom stifles it. Having limitations gives one something to work around or overcome.
Clinton says
14 years ago
constraints can come in many forms. Take Thoreau. His Walden Pond cabin offered freedom of one sort, but constraints of another.
Clinton says
14 years ago
the trick is to find constraints that you can work with. Everyone is different in this respect.
Nikki
14 years ago
Holy cow, I can't believe you guys are saying this shit. Too much Fox News? Constraints are for the undisciplined and under-motivated.
Nikki
14 years ago
Anything created under duress is always less than great
Kghia
14 years ago
I think freedom requires you to set your own limits and restrictions. YOU have to be responsible.
Nikki
14 years ago
Exactly, K
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
Well, what I am calling constraints here to some degree are self imposed rules. Others know this as 'Style'. Personal artistic style.
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
The art world punishes you if your work is 'all over the map'. That is not similar to itself in some recognizeable way.
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
That said, a themed show focuses you and unleashes your creativity by focusing you in a particular direction. I find it works.
Michele
14 years ago
agrees with Nikki and Kghia
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
Kghia mentions limits. And that is all that is being said here. Limits and restrictions. They define the work.
Clinton is
14 years ago
most creative when finding ways to circumvent constraints in order to accomplish what needs to get done.
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
nice way to put it Clinton.
Clinton says
14 years ago
limitations, restrictions, and constraints give you a scope within which to work.
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
Would you apply this to writing as well as art? I'm just curious.
Clinton says
14 years ago
yes. If I sit down with a blank piece of paper in front of me, It's incredibly difficult to put pencil to paper and come up with substance
Clinton says
14 years ago
however, if I impose restrictions on myself ("I'm going to write a short story inspired by the style of Neal Stephenson";-)
Clinton says
14 years ago
I have a defined scope, and can get down to brass tacks.
Gracie says
14 years ago
I don't know, I can see how both ways work... My paintings are not constrained at all. I put the canvas down and just go for it... no \
Gracie says
14 years ago
thought in mind of the end product at all... I have no idea how it is going to turn out... and actually My Life as an Avatar project is
Gracie says
14 years ago
similar.. its more stream of consciousness thinking... I feel the sky is the limit to what I can do with it and that leads me to many
Gracie says
14 years ago
possibilities... but... in art school... they did help me to think of a more cohesive portfolio.. because art galleries etc... want to know
Gracie says
14 years ago
or want to see that your work isn't all over the place and that you have a good idea and can stick with it and express it wholey (sp)
Gracie says
14 years ago
I actually don't agree with Manx "Freedom does not drive creativity"? hmmmm maybe for you, but not everyone. that is a very blanket general
Gracie says
14 years ago
statement.
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
Interesting, Clinton - I tend to go in reverse. "I have a notion and can't wait to get a chance to write it!" is my speed.
Clinton says
14 years ago
your notion is your "box to work in." -- That's how my mind works anyway.
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
I believe there are various methods to the goal of results. And that is not being wishywashy!
Clinton thinks
14 years ago
the methods are all similar, the perception is what varies :-)
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
Not sure that constraints work for me though. My tales form in my head, and run around in there for quite some time, developing, expanding
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
till I have such a full head I need to write it all out, and then more of the same tale can keep expanding in my head.
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
Cycles... but all one concept. The only constraint is my own memory ability. *ponders*
manx
14 years ago
41 comments? wtf?
manx
14 years ago
I believe in the authenticity from the art of distress.
Nestra thinks
14 years ago
everyone missed the original point
manx is
14 years ago
so misunderstood
Nikki
14 years ago
It got kind of hair splitty there for a while
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
I thought it was a good discussion!
Nestra says
14 years ago
it was. but not the original intent. still very interesting!
Gracie says
14 years ago
ummmm what was the original intent? LOL
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
I think the original intent was well covered!
Kghia
14 years ago
no one controls the message, man
Scarp Godenot
14 years ago
agreed
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
I thought my opinion covered my feelings on Constraint and Creativity. What got missed?
Clinton
14 years ago
enjoys conversations between opposing viewpoints that don't dissolve into flamewars.
Ceejay Writer
14 years ago
I enjoy those immensely, Clinton! Everyone comes away a winner, and with new info.
Gracie says
14 years ago
absolutely!!!
Nikki
14 years ago
sets Clinton's tail on fire
Michele gives
14 years ago
Clinton a bottle of water
Clinton thinks
14 years ago
Nikki must be masochistic to set the plume she so covets ablaze.
Clinton
14 years ago
quenches his thirst on proffered bottle of water
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