No idea what this means but it can only be good

xD

I just want my damn moving clothes olololol

lol it's so exciting! clothes that move with your body, what a revolutionary concept I love how we're all so psyched about it.

mesh clothes are soo fun! warning though: you may see ALOT of ruffles from me!

what do you mean invert? Make it so there are 2 sides displayed? I just worked out that once you do the weighting and export the final dae

you can flip the normals in your 3d prog, export again and wear both linked together

only trouble is that will cost twice the upload fees :/

but it's a decent workaround

or you could do them in the same model, and just set up different materials....

im still totally in the damn dark about mesh rigging in maya. I have no idea where to even begin to do what I need to do.

not sure what I need for SL, or what i need for maya, or or or

everything im finding on rigging has to do with animation, which I dont need to learn. I just need a skeleton that i can hang clothing on.

Allegory you could do that! I'm still a bit of a 3d newb, working this stuff out as I go along

you'll need to get ahold of the skeleton setup somewhere...i fear i have one for blender, but have no clue about how to port it to maya.

what do you use, siddean? (blender/maya/etc)

YAY RUFFLES!

@ Siddean and Allegory, yep I meant flipping the normals the other way. Before LL changed the mesh system I was able to invert the mesh

I probably won't start playing seriously until next year, but I really want to learn how to model properly for mesh and stuff

Not just like lolz *import mesh > sculpt mesh* *PLAYS WITH SCULPT TOOL* bing bam boom done

huh, i must never have messed with it when they had the normal flipping. i assume that was in Build? at which point it already has the

triangles so you don't have to worry about it cutting your quads different directions if you don't do it yourself....

gah, as I was trying to say before plurk crashed on me, you used to be able to flip normals in-world

when mesh was intended to behave like prims

it would be great if LL brought that function back!

I don't know how others make mesh clothing, but I only make the exterior side, and I was counting on in-world normal flipping

to render the interior side of clothing

y this so complicatedz?

it's more efficient, imo, with fewer polygons to upload and cuts down on upload costs too!

lol it won't be so bad once LL settles on a workable scheme...

there a particular reason they cost more to upload? or is it just a greed thing? lpol

lol

and maxwell, are you reading this?! if so STOP BEING SO STUBBORN and rig the damn thing in Blender!!!

it works (and you can still use Maya for everything else!)

ChantelleAshdene, mesh could cost more or less than 10L per upload

Ooh. When I was watching that video you linked me to she paid like 100 I was like wtf is this

think of it this way, it a mesh model is huge, like 100 prims linked together, it would cost more than 10L to upload

Ohh

but if it's a really small file, smaller than the computing power to takes to render a simple basic cube, then it would probably cost less

/gets it

that's why there's all that complicated discussion about "prim equivalency" costs, etc.

anyways, nini SLinkbySiddean, Allegory, ChantelleAshdene and maxwell_graf

off to zzzzs... and maxwell_graf, try Blender for rigging so you can start having fun with mesh

ninI!

the original _theory_ behind mesh upload costs (and we'll see what they actually do...) was to have cost be one of the ways to encourage

optimized models- with meshes, you can import VERY complex models that take up the same rendering "space" as hundreds, even thousands, of

prims- so price is one of the ways to try to get people to not upload meshes that are too complicated, for rendering time/lag/etc.