8 months. They claim they just get bored of the girl and end up sleeping ariund and getting dumped for being unable to commit.

They then go on to say that they want to be a father; to have 2-4 kids since being a father would make him a better man and more loyal.

They claim that if he had a kid he wiuld make sure to treat them well and the mom too... And heres where my fury begins...

He says that if he was ever going to be with someone he would need.his parents approval as they are old school arranged marriage types.

Its clear to me that through his upbringing this poor guy has become terrified of rejection or commitment, which they agreed on.

So by trying to control their sons life and relations, have destroyed nearly any hope of a normal healthy relationship!

To compound the matter, he only sees children as a living tether to encourage loyalty....

I ask: If you cant even commit to the woman you would spend the rest of your life with, how can you commit to the resulting offspring?

Then it occurs to me that mankind does this scenario wvery day of our lives.... we toil and muck at things everyday,

things that we cant stand to do, all for the sake of the result of that relationship, the paycheque

But is that what children should be viewed as?! The payoff of a life of suffering? You suffer because of them in so many ways...

emotionally, physically, financially

For all of your life. How can you ever want this?!, I ask. I think this sukmarizes my feelings in children.

Yes, loving parents can bring a truly wonderful person in to the world, and many have done just this, but hiw can I want to put myself

into a full lifetime of suffering when the world does it already without my assistance or efforts?

So much agreement from me on that one

This, my love. This.

Also I think I might have a guess as to which co-worker you're talking about...

Amen, Grant.

I just do not feel that genetic base urge to reproduce like maby people do, and I wouldn't want to have a kid for the sake of doing it right

and even if we did, theyd have to grow up in a world filled with tax benefit babies and oopsie babies and relationship glue babies.

It's not the one I usually whine about, though the two are the equivalent of PB & J lol