Ghost
12 years ago
BL2: Tiny Tina is "racist"? kotaku.com/5981171/borde...]
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Ghost
12 years ago
I've never viewed slang as a racial determiner... perhaps a regional, or class. I guess I'm having a little trouble making the same connections as these "critics."
acelessthan3
12 years ago
Language is one of those iffy ones. I don't know anything about Tiny Tina, but while language can be a racial determiner, the regional and class aspects make it more complicated than racist/not-racist.
acelessthan3
12 years ago
Like, if she grew up surrounded by a community that used that and was actively part of a community that used AAVE or some variant, you can't call that racist. But you need that background first.
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Ghost
12 years ago
But that's what I'm asking, is language racial? or regional? She doesn't use slang in any sort of mocking sense... she's a 12-13 years old orphan, and relatively insane.
Ghost
12 years ago
Hmm... maybe I shouldn't say "language", it's phonology and slang...the language is still English.
SpaceCptSarah
12 years ago
She talks like a kid who thinks they're tough, and is emulating a dialect she associates with being tough. She's extreme, but never in a mocking way.
Ghost
12 years ago
I feel it's being exclusionary... is jargon limited to the designated field? I dunno
SpaceCptSarah
12 years ago
Well, but if you were to go to a junior high, you'd see a shitton of kids her age talking like that, regardless of ethnicity.
Ghost
12 years ago
If I were to really push it I could understand a "white character" speaking chicano as potentially racist. Even then I don't find pidgins and creoles to be wholly exclusive...
Ghost
12 years ago
...And with no extensive background for the character, meh.
Kilroy
12 years ago
I always wonder how many people who actually are black are offended by this.
Kilroy
12 years ago
Because I would be willing to bet the vast majority of the people making a rukus about this are white.
Kilroy
12 years ago
Having watched that video, I can't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that her character is racist.
Kilroy
12 years ago
I mean shit, she didn't even use AAVE.
SpaceCptSarah
12 years ago
African American Vernacular English.
SpaceCptSarah
12 years ago
and she really doesn't. Like I said, she talks like a 13 year old kid who thinks they're tough.
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