TerrorMask
12 years ago
[Bioshock/SPOILER THREAD] The feels.
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TerrorMask
12 years ago
The ending hit me like a rock to the face. I had my doubts that erasing DeWitt from the timeline would stop Comstock from ever happening because Novikov's self preservation clause.
TerrorMask
12 years ago
K then pointed out that ONE Anna remained, and so the curve closes restarting at "point zero".
TerrorMask
12 years ago
After much rumination, I think that one timeline survives: the one in which DeWitt gets actually baptizes. And Anna knew it. Booker was in the "main" timeline, the one that cannot be erased.
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TerrorMask
12 years ago
Because doing so would invalidate the "main" Elizabeth and thus implode the loop in a flashbang of Paradox.
TerrorMask
12 years ago
The circle has not been unbroken, after all. No freedom, no choice. I ish so sad about that, but it was awesomely narrated from start to end. Hats off and a tear of regret.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
there is a very detailed thread about all the possibilities and the possible paradoxes in NeoGAF
R. Lutece
12 years ago
I prefer to go with: Drowning booker causes the possibility that Booker accepting baptism and becoming Comstock always winds up in a paradox.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
The universe goes, "No", wipes those timelines out, and only allows timelines featuring baptism rejection to exist.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
Hence the post-credits scene.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
But that's just the optimist in me. As mentioned before it is as happy or as sad as you want it to be.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
It is also entirely possible that once the siphon was destroyed, Elizabeth became like the Lutece's: able to exist across space and time, and therefore outside of causality.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
Therefore killing booker before he becomes comstock only eliminates a select group of possibilities determined by god-elizabeth.
Harold
12 years ago
.^ THIS
Harold
12 years ago
god-Elizabeth zeroes out the possibility of comstock, but is at that moment, immune to paradox. That or she sealed herself with the comstock multiverse.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
walking the pattern does that. LOLOLOL.
Harold says
12 years ago
I remember speculating on that. HAHAHA
R. Lutece
12 years ago
also... fucking bioshock 1 wrench!
R. Lutece
12 years ago
From the reddit thread: She doesn't simply kill Booker before he becomes Comstock; she does it after the variable in which he does swings in that favor.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
More specifically, she does it *after he choose to accept the Baptism.* She breaks the cycle, because if Comstock does not exist, neither can she.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
All that remains are the realities where Booker rejects the Baptism, with the only lasting effect of Elizabeth's action being that Anna is never sold - hence the scene after the credits.
ksolaris
12 years ago
... i read the neogaf thread. DLC WITH SONGBIRD IN IT OMG (sorry...)
R. Lutece
12 years ago
Elizabeth effectively turns a variable into a constant. But again, that's one way of looking at it. The "choice" on how to look at the coin, is up to you. :-D
R. Lutece
12 years ago
"smothered in the crib" after he was born.
R. Lutece
12 years ago
ksolaris: SONGBIRD DLC!!! I hope it confirms the booker = songbird theory :-D <3
ksolaris
12 years ago
R. Lutece
12 years ago
Also: None of the Elizabeths that drown you have the Bird or Cage necklaces that you pick for her. She isn't "your" Elizabeth. Even booker notices that.
ksolaris
12 years ago
DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
TerrorMask
12 years ago
Read the thread idle_eidolon posted. Food for thought, but still thinking that the worst timeline remains active (Booker -> Comstock).
R. Lutece
12 years ago
^ then, we have DLCs.
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