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Why Do fnnish Babies Sleep in cardboard Boxes?

The Finns are awesome in so many ways

that is awesome! The box is about the size of a bassinet, which probably helped cut down mortality (as the article said that the babies used to co-sleep with the parents).

sigh do I really need to drag out the co-sleeping statistics?

most studies have found that co-sleeping has no higher infant mortality rate than sleeping in a crib. When babies die in adult beds, it is usually unsupervised, with no adult present

just because a bunch of fucked up bitches on Sex and the City say it's dangerous, doesn't mean it's so.

not really. I've heard them all I'm sure.

just speculating on why mortality would've went down.

(I personally wouldn't co-sleep, as I'm sure I'd roll over and squish them.)

could have been because they were fucking poor before the program started and couldn't afford many of the items. And many women didn't go to physicians either

but since getting the box is contingent upon seeing a physician, women began going

also gonna say that if cribs were in use (especially older styles, which afaik weren't terribly safe) the box would keep infants from getting hurt before they had the motor skills to prevent injuries.

and I've never seen Sex in the City.

but those things likely did help. (I missed the contingent part.)

yeah, that's where I hear a lot of women are getting their parenting advice re:co-sleeping from.

really? Did any of them even have kids on the show?

I don't know, but even if they had a whole horde of kids, not sure I'd trust them to give parenting advice

I read all the pregnancy/mommy books and magazines when I was pregnant with Jas. (Being with my ex, I didn't have anything better to do than hang at Barnes & Noble while he played at Gamestop.)

and I just couldn't bring myself to go for co-sleeping. But I know a gal who is friends of DW's family who does all of the traditional-but-shocking-today things, like co-sleeping and cloth diapers and lots of

breastfeeding, and she has raised four awesome kids. So no hating on it from me.

well I'm not giving parenting advice, I just know the stats, and since they're pretty much equal, I think it should be a personal choice by the parent

my brain tends to ignore stats, mostly because finding unbiased ones is very difficult at times. I haven't had the chance to dig in and find all the ones I want to know about.

its just that many of the stats got skewed because babies dying unsupervised in an adult bed were being counted as co-sleeping deaths, when tehre was no "co" about it.

you gotta be a dumbass to leave a baby alone in an adult bed

would guess that many of those were babies rolling off the bed, as some babies can do it way earlier than they're 'supposed' to.

oh yeah

yeah. When I was three, I got my arm caught in my own bed, and couldn't get it out. Had to yell until my mom woke up.

like, right between the headboard and the mattress.

if I can't be trusted in my own bed at 3, what the heck babies in an adult bed?

one neat thing I saw was a bed you could line up to the side of the adult bed, so the baby could sleep and then when it was feeding time the mom could just have the baby scoot over.

I coslept with all three of my kids. saved my sanity from getting up 6 times a night (or more) when they nursed. but yeah it's not for everyone. it's just not dangerous as it's made out to be.

The other part that skews the death numbers is parents that were under the influence of alcohol or drugs if they actually were in the bed.

that box has everything! every parent gets an equal opportunity to raise a healthy baby and I love that. Also, they put condoms in the box

and not everyone has the money to buy or the space to put a crib. It makes it safe for a new parent that can't affors a big crib

dragoneyezed: Right! drugs and alcohol play a factor as well - which is another dumbass thing to do. See, with me the danger would be the cats deciding the baby was in their spot and pushing it out of the way

or, knowing my luck, a dingo

or that bear!

msesheta: it is really a good idea. Finland is a magical place

although cats can suffocate babies. My cat would. She tries suffocating me!

all that fluff directly on my face.

a dingo

my cats hated her Highness so much they ignored her all together. They didn't even like her enough to snub her

I tried to co-sleep with Abigail but got kicked in the head one too many times and was like "Right! That's it! Yer on yer own!" She was like a little locomotive engine. All over that bed!

yeah some kids aren't good for it

Elijah used to end up perpendicular between Jon and I

Naomi often ended up on my pillow, halfway wrapped around my head like a cat