uh final fantasy anything

Ace Attorney!

dreamoftheroselin: I hate dissidia!kefka's design. WHY IS HE TALL? HE SHOULD NOT BE TALL. and despite not having played the games, i know that dissidia!kuja is ooc from my gleanings of the plot

HE'S THE MOST COMPETANT VILLAIN IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, WHY DID YOU MAKE HIM A BRAINLESS PRETTY BOY IN DISSIDIA

i think dissidia is pure wish fulfillment tbh

Lady_Angelina: I don't like Kristoph or Klavier. I...dont' know if that's unpopular or not?

and i think manfred was actually an ok father! he wasn't great, but he wasn't terrible either. he genuinely loved his kids

dreamoftheroselin: how is depowering kuja wish fulfillment ;o; although i'll admit that im currently shamelessly complaining about games i haven't played yet |D; which is very rude, i know

Klavier always struck me as kind of a divisive character. Like not quite "you love him or you hate him" levels, just that he has a strong amount of both fans and not-fans

makes sense. i'm p sure that not being fond of the aj game is a popular opinion; i thought it was ok, but i feel like phoenix and klavier steal the game from apollo but don't do it in a very interesting way

Yeah. I enjoyed AJ for the most part myself, but it felt wishy washy about a lot of things.

like how much attention they wanted to give Apollo

Yeah, what Nebberson said... personally, I do like Klavier but not that much, and outside of an excellent RP portrayal, I didn't care for Kristoph either

i wish we saw more of klavier being a petty asshole or that i had more reason to care about everyone he loves betraying him; he has potential to be an interestnig character, but aj didn't act on it

wish fulfillment ie all characters meeting in the same game w/o really thought out plot

And on Manfred! I think of him as more strict than anything else

granted i've only played through half the first game, but the cut scenes were really awkward for me to watch past my fangirling of oooh pretty graphics!

kristoph and klavier had potential, but it felt like i got pulled into the story of the two beautiful and hyper competant brothers. i couldn't get into it. i had no emotional attachment to either of them.

AJ was a bit too short there, yeah... we really only learn anything about Klavier in cases 3 and 4, and that wasn't much

yeah, von karma was probably really strict and put on pressure but he was trying to be helpful! it was how he was raised, so it was how he was raising his kids.

dreamoftheroselin: i have my own Opinions on how a dissidia game should go, and a good chunk of them are the villains falling into infighting because they all have different goals and -

And actually, you've touched on one of my issues with the later installments of the series... new characters that are just expies of previous ones, with shoehorned backstories

accidentally break the dissidia system, which means the heroes have to scramble to make sure the world doesn't fall apart while stopping the people making it fall apart

also kefka and kuja toss the emperor off a cliff

Lady_Angelina: I haven't had a chance to play dual destinies yet, so I can't comment on that |D

however, I hope that things aren't as shallow or as cynical as the plot of aj turned out. all of the games have a thematic thing going on with the reveal, and a reveal of LOL PEOPLE YOU LOVE ACTUALLY HATE YOU

really depressing to go through four times in a row 8'|

...granted, if i could make my ideal game, it would end up as von karmas 2: electric boogaloo, and look at the repurcussions of phoenix being overturned as well as the return of von karma family shenanigans

as well as von karma's granddaugther falling for trucy after swearing vengeance on phoenix and hilarity ensuing

Ahhh... well, I won't spoil it, but I admit, while I enjoyed the game, the overarching plot often made me

And yes... DO WANT

...i think i like your idea better than the actual game

Lady_Angelina: i'm spoiled on some of the overarching plot! although i like the villain because i've mostly met them through really good fanfic, they really suck at planning

or so i've heard

dreamoftheroselin: all the latter ff villains really hate people trying to control them; can you imagine the fits they'd throw on finding out they've been tossed into the magic hunger games?

they're going to fuck up the game and show whoever made it who is boss. (kefka, kuja, seph) or realize that this is going to blow up the dissidia world and start doing stuff to stop it. (ulti, seph)

exdeath and cod want to kill everyone anyway so they're all YES LET'S BLOW EVERYTHING UP

golbez ends up working for garland

...i have no idea what jecht does, and maybe replace him with seymour because that would be hilarious. or jecht decides to switch sides because he is surrounded by assholes

empy gets killed halfway through as the 'villains are destroying the world' metaplot kicks in because i have an irrational grudge against him for stealing thunder from actual good villains

he didn't work for his power and i don't care about imperialism, i want to see the people who kill off emperors and ceos and work for power gang up on him

Golbez working for Garland sounds amazing THEY WILL KNOCK YOU ALL DOWN

EVERYONE IS GETTING KNOCKED DOWN >8O

...what if there was a villain/hero team up to break the cycle so everyone could go home

everyone's sick of this nonsense

yuna makes like she did when yunalesca did the thing and punches out an eldrich abomination

kuja is scarily competant, ok, he's 24 and manages to pull off stunts in his game that none of the other villains could handle. UNPOPULAR OPINION: KUJA IS SCARY COMPETANT

he starts several wars and successfully steals a bunch of summons, he blows up a couple towns, he built his power up from nothing after he got dumped on gaia, he BLEW UP A PLANET HOLY SHIT