I've decided not to drop Clara but I am not gonna play her from season 8. Just can't, with her character written that way.

Also ngl I didn't like Danny that much

So yeah. Good news I suppose.

Have you not seen the finale?

Curious too

I heard about the Missy thing mostly but not like oh no in regards to spoilers for DW anymore

Oh man. Yeah. Moffat screws Clara over once and for all. She had some awesome moments but most of the stuff she does in the episode was just a big fat W T F. For me anyway.

Danny kicks it, and she flips her lid and betrays the Doctor by stealing his TARDIS keys and threatening to destroy them if he doesn't go back and save him. Doesn't even ask him first. Just goes full crazy.

Seriously, Danny has turned her into such a bag of crazy I can't even. I hate that - when a love interest comes along, suddenly the character does completely stupid things. It's been like that all season.

(I'm betting she's pregnant, which is part of the reason she's so desperate to get him back, but STILL.)

I don't even see the chemistry between her and Danny

it seems forced.

Yeah.

danny seemed okay at the start but the pacing and writing didn't help.

YES this. this this this.

I just didn't buy them as a couple whose love ~transcends time and space~

Not like Amy and Rory

So yeah. When they did that I was like

Amy / Rory had sometime to develop on and off screen. I also wonder if Clara not being a 'steady' and constant companion played into lots of her problems.

clara's entire characterization has been a complete bag of cats this season. Absolutely inconsistent and unlike everything that's happened before.

And I don't like it. Not one bit.

It irritates the fuck out of me. Especially after the chemistry her and Eleven had, too, I don't see any of it with her and Danny, sooooo...

Agreed. Makes me so sad, because she had SO much potential and I felt like she was getting somewhere by the end of Eleven's run, and then they just did a complete 180 and decided to turn her into some kind of

psychotic love-struck teenager type.

exactly. Literally none of the writing this season has been consistent, and I'm so fucking sick of it.

Especially since Eleven and Clara were honest-to-God the first actual official pairing I shipped in New Who. They were so fucking adorable.

not that Rose is a paragon of anything but we've had companions go above and beyond sanity for those they love before

i'm pretty sure it was definitely supposed to be a psychotic break caused by shock from Danny suddenly dying while they were on the phone with each other, and it didn't seem too out of left field

but yes, her actions were incredibly annoying. i just don't think it's really that unbelievable for someone to act that way...

Twelve and Clara had such a strange relationship that I could never really grok though

like... her not asking him first seems more an indicator of her unease with knowing he had her back. As opposed to Eleven, whom she probably would have asked outright

that sucks though that the character was ruined for you

I think the way Twelve dealt with it as well didn't really. Like it was like "LOL it's k Clara let's go <3" and then not mentioned again. Didn't seem very in character for either of them tbh

But ALSO tbh, I don't think there IS an 'in character' in season 8. at all. The writing is all over the shop.

yeah it's hard to pin them down for sure

maybe the Doctor just figures whatever she throws at him he can deal with. Like Turlough

Oh yeah. It's just the principle of the thing. You just don't do that to the Doctor. And I'm sure she sure as hell wouldn't have done it to Eleven

it was a completely insane response to the situation yes

i can see why it'd be hard to play a character you can't really respect

Yeah. I'm gonna stick to playing her pre-season 8 I think, or at least...pre-Danny

/waves/

are we still doing our threads we had together?

Not sure hun. We kind of had far too many for me to keep track of in any case; I usually prefer to have only one or two threads going with a person at a time

ok. well, I'll make sure not to have too many at a time.

whatever happens...I'd still like to thread with your Clara with my Eleven or Twelve. Your Clara is awesome