ringer
10 years ago
[sony] George Clooney says, far more eloquently than I could, my thoughts on the Sony hacks.
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ringer
10 years ago
Which is basically to stop blaming Sony and look at the larger issue here. Also, if you have to blame someone, blame the theaters for pulling out and not Sony.
knife mom
10 years ago
man, i have so much respect for george clooney
knife mom
10 years ago
which is not ...........a thing i would ever have envisioned saying
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ringer
10 years ago
And then talk about the fucking hacking instead of the movie.
ringer
10 years ago
silverycitibanklights: Really? Haha. I like him a lot. He, Ben Affleck, and some others I've come to realize are really educated, well informed activists for great causes.
knife mom
10 years ago
Ahah well, I mea
knife mom
10 years ago
n
knife mom
10 years ago
this is a change from when I was like ...twenty
knife mom
10 years ago
and much less aware
I'm glad I was wrong in having originally thought it honestly seemed to be mostly commercially based, the decision to pull the film
Not as glad that the film industry apparently capitulated, since a threat isn't the same as actually being able to do something, but I do understand why they would have.
This country has been very susceptible to 'terrorism' and the thread of terrorism or attacks for thirteen years now
ringer
10 years ago
silverycitibanklights: Ahaha, got it. I'm sure he's grown a lot.
knife mom
10 years ago
As have I, ahah!
knife mom
10 years ago
It's been a journey together.
knife mom
10 years ago
On which note I also really appreciate Ben Affleck.
ringer
10 years ago
midcirclenine: It really irritated me that so many people jumped to criticize Sony when they were responding to others' kowtowing first. In the midst of dealing with these awful leaks. One of the things
ringer
10 years ago
Clooney says that I love is his remark about how they embarrassed Sony first, then attacked them directly and how powerful that is.
ringer
10 years ago
silverycitibanklights: Tbh I only came to appreciate him a couple years ago. I had the fortune of interviewing him for his film Argo and I was so impressed with his passion and very apparent
Yeah that was an excellent point
ringer
10 years ago
education/knowledge-base on the subject material. He wasn't just reading cards; he really knew a lot and could discuss it at length. It was really amazing to watch unfold.
knife mom
10 years ago
Yessss
oh wow that's really cool
knife mom
10 years ago
I had that experience with The Town
knife mom
10 years ago
not that I
knife mom
10 years ago
spoke to him, just that i read about it a lot and it was obviously he'd worked really hard and really knew his subject matter
knife mom
10 years ago
*obvious
knife mom
10 years ago
jesus
knife mom
10 years ago
I am so tired :| BUT YEAH I am a fan.
ringer
10 years ago
Haha, yeah!! He gets really passionate about projects and really pours his heart and soul into them. It's honestly really refreshing to me to see Clooney doing the same with this Sony hacking situation.
ringer
10 years ago
Because. Someone has to.
knife mom
10 years ago
This bit about how literally no one would sign this petition is not surprising but it is
knife mom
10 years ago
really disheartening
ringer
10 years ago
Agreed. When that kind of powerhouse you know his network must be amazing can't convince people to get on board, it kind of adds a level of futility to the situation in an, as you said, disheartening way.
ringer
10 years ago
(whoops strikes)
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
this was an interesting read
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
tbh though, to me, this self-interested fear is not 'fear of physical attack' it's 'capitalist fear of loss of income' at its heart
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
sigh
ringer
10 years ago
Agreed, although I think physical fear is also a consideration. Dwarfed by far of bad publicity.
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
physical fear of terrorists is just alarmist at this point, riled up by the history of Bush's constant TERROR ALERTS
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
Jon Stewart pointed out that hyperbolic threats is what North Korea does. they've also threatened, a lot more directly, to turn Washington, DC into a "sea of fire"
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
no one took that seriously, but this is serious?
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
it just sounds like a convenient excuse to get out of taking the financial risk
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
and, wrapped in the financial risk, the personal reputation risk if the hackers turned on them.
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
the Interview's producers being privately tasteless is just a normal human trait. movie theatres uniformly refusing to show it, and no one signing Clooney's statement of support, is aggravating as hell
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
for the money-obsessed mindset it reveals
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
it doesn't surprise me, which is what's so aggravating about it, lol. continuation of a trend.
ringer
10 years ago
Oh I don't think anyone involved has a real fear of physical terrorism. But a fear of invasion of privacy can very quickly turn into a fear of physical violence. People are crazy with their death threats.
ringer
10 years ago
And while, yes, the theater chains are clearly money obsessed, I think their mind is more on the publicity than the money directly. Which, yes, goes back to money (bad publicity = suffering), but I think
ringer
10 years ago
there's a degree of ego or pride to it as well. It's about legacy building, etc.
ringer
10 years ago
It also relates back to what Clooney said, only in reverse. Once one or two bowed out, the rest followed.
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
it's stupid though because being the ONLY theatre showing a certain movie is obviously a fantastic publicity move
Mr. Vocabulary
10 years ago
or being, say, the only person that signed his thing
ringer
10 years ago
I changed my mind. I don't think it's just publicity/money. If something happened? No one wants to be the guy responsible for that on a
ringer
10 years ago
personal level. Then factor in the blame/publicity. No matter what they do, it's the wrong choice. Every option can be related to "doing
ringer
10 years ago
it for the money, " which isn't fair. Do I think the theaters should have kowtowed? No. But I understand why they did.
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