would a chara dipper fusion be called chipper
Chara > Wondermetta whoops tripped and fell in some code there
>breakfast
>emails
>sorting
y!Chara > d!Frisk twists themself in mental knots to do a thing that could concievably be classified as fun
>dishes
>letterbox
>rubbish bins
That would result in horrible misuse of a wood chipper, somehow. So if you're okay with that, then yes.
well if you combine Journal + Knife spliters are a concievable result, so it fits thematically : D
(either that, or paper knives)
*splinters, whoops
I'm picturing something like Zexion, which is weird because I've never actually played more than twenty minutes of Kingdom Hearts.
Come to think of it, they could just use the Torn Notebook.
Torn Notebook would def be a Form Weapon, so to speak
looks up Zexion seems legit
Chipper would quite possibly be the nerdiest thing in Wonderland
Counterargument: Alphys exists.
...you make an excellent counterargument. Clearly, they must duke it out for the title
Chara > Wonderfrisk its 3am and someone won't stop playing a trumpet badly
chara has struck again
This is just going to end with Mabel and Sans dragging both parties off by the ear and/or tail.
you sure Sans wouldn't start selling tickets?
Normally, yes, but if Alphys is actually fighting someone instead of desperately avoiding any kind of confrontation, things have clearly gone too far.
i was thinking more nerd trivia battle but tbf it might turn into that once the topic of MMKC2 comes up
That one might need Frisk to get involved. (Sans is useless here, on the grounds that he hasn't watched any anime with Alphys since The Madoka Incident.)
Frisk would make an ideal mediator tbh
and possibly judge
They have a tiny gavel.
oh my god that's the cutest
>phone
>403
>lunch
>403
>lunch
Okay, remind me again: is scrollingdown your tumblr, or someone else's? Because I've been going through the Undertale fic on there for the last couple hours and I've got ideas, but I've had that tab open 'to look at later' for like six days and now I don't remember who linked me to it originally. I know it was someone on plurk, I just can't remember who.
scrollingdown's my tumblr, yep! can't believe I snapped up that url
the Perfectly Generic Object of tumblr urls
(gimme the ideassss)
Hey, if it works, it works. Glad I guessed right. : D
^^
So, about your DT-as-drug-trade AU, I was thinking...
What if DT and LV aren't the only... interesting drugs out there.
Am I thinking what you're thinking?
Six colours
Six colours
literally chasing the rainbow
Oh, there's more than six. DT and LV are the more famous ones- and no wonder, the former boosts like rocket fuel and the latter lets you eat the heart out of the world around you for as long as you can manage before it eats you up in turn. But there are others.
(although when I was making the AU I was still working out my headcanons on the virtues - I think for this I decided that it's DT that gives colour, the colour is dependent on virtue, and a great deal of DT saturates virtue out to just red.)
ooooh go on
DF and AF both seem to mostly affect muscular development- they're what steroids secretly always wanted to be when they grew up. AF makes you build up faster, easier- you can hit like a freight train, if you take enough. DF is more linked to regrowth of the flesh- the more you take the better you heal, and it grows back stiffer and harder to hurt.
(LV will boost you in ways similar to both of them. They may actually be components of the synthetic version, as opposed to the kind made from monster dust.)
Niice
and INV is just OP
and INV is just OP
(oooh now I like that)
if the drugs are all based on stats, how would GOLD manifest?
(tbh if I did this AU all over again I'd probs just stick to DT as the single drug)
Say INV is one of the rare drugs that not only affects the soul at all, but acts on it directly, allowing a user to push their soul through obstacles, send it farther from themselves without damage? It's mostly used by spies, since you can still perceive through it. Unwise to overdose, though- your soul flickering out of range for too long won't end well
(I can see why, it could get complicated fast. Honestly, I might recommend going with it as two separate AUs- one with the DT Extraction Trade like you were discussing, and one with a bunch of different things based on various stats.)
hmmm see this is why bc it starts getting complicated - wouldn't cyan and orange souls clip through objects already?
jinx XD
yeah exactly
The multiple-stats AU could maybe be some sort of futuristic high-tech noir-ish AU? Like some sort of cyberpunk thing where the stat drugs are the only supernatural stuff, no other magic, so you don't have to worry about contradicting yourself as much.
yeah that sounds good
honestly the DT AU kind of grew too fast for itself, like a plant with gibberellins. as a result it didn't grow well. I kept throwing out random stuff in response to the suggestions and the result was like a stitched together jenga tower.
honestly the DT AU kind of grew too fast for itself, like a plant with gibberellins. as a result it didn't grow well. I kept throwing out random stuff in response to the suggestions and the result was like a stitched together jenga tower.
'high tech noirish AU' was what I was going for
cyberpunk dystopia
Sometimes it's just fun to play with things for a bit, see what comes up, and then you work out the more well-plotted serious version later. Also, we can go for more symbolism than literal versions. Say orange boosts your speed- and also has a habit of dulling the fear response, leading to a lot of charging in.
should have had the DT stuff as a foundation, then stitched the soul trade into that, then...
XD yeah true.
and yeah, virtues as substances makes more sense than stats as substances now
partly because of the ridiculousness of GOLD and partly bc it kind of... cheapens LV? if you can get it without killing people
partly because of the ridiculousness of GOLD and partly bc it kind of... cheapens LV? if you can get it without killing people
Cyan, conversely, slows your perception of time, so a second passes like a minute. It also tends to make people rather calm and unmotivated, though, so using it to do super-cool martial arts moves with your newly-enhanced senses tends not to work out. (Not that this stops people from trying.)
I think we could have both virtues and stats?
each virtue tends to have stat associations anyway, so it works out
so taking purple will boost INV
Say that all of them have to be extracted from people, one way or another, but only LV requires killing the person you're harvesting from.
and oooh love that for cyan yeah
a certain clarity of thought
a certain clarity of thought
There is no nonlethal way to get LV.
mmm. mmmm mmmm
maybe?? mm.
maybe?? mm.
i do fall down on 'measurement not substance' now
besides, extraction can kill the person you take from, if you have a shitty machine, or take too much too fast or just don't care
The others, being harvested sure isn't fun, but you'll regenerate it and you'd only die if someone fucked up big time. LV- always a fatal extraction, no exceptions. That's why it's so rare, expensive, and terrifying. (Or maybe EXP is the 'you can't get it from them alive' one, and LV is the measurement like you said?)
it's a popular way to hush people up bc it doesn't leave marks
and unfortunately when people catch wind of their operation being looked at by cops the cows are usually the first to go so they can't give evidence
I'm shelving LV for now, I want to think about it more later.
But yeah, let's see, something along the lines of... "Unlocking the psychic potential of mankind. You'd think it would end up with a bunch of enlightened types, right? Wrong. Some clever fucker figures out how to materialize the soul, and the first thought on people's minds is 'how do I take that for myself'. And thought number two? 'How do I sell it."
yessss exactly
(and nascently on LV... maybe you can only get it from the souls of murderers. A black gunk. but wow that would make trials easier)
"You got your standard set, the rainbow no one oughtta chase, taken straight from the soul. Street names are the same as the colors: Cyan, Orange, Blue, Purple, Yellow, Green." (Drain a killer, then become one?)
and yeah the part I love about this AU is... this is the exact thing humans in the Monster-Human War feared
Human souls as commodities
Humans did it to themselves
And it's not even monsters doing it- just h. Dammit, I saw you post midsentence.
Want me to keep throwing out suggestions in Mx. Hardboiled Narrator's voice? It's kind of fun.
(ooh interesting. the act catalyses it? otherwise it just sits there. so you end up with a higher LV than you'd normally have for that much killing. you've taken on other people's karmic debt)
heck yesssss i love it
(and yeah whoops i got excited)
hhh I have to go to a meeting tho I'll be back in an hour
(No, no, I was just saying you managed to post the same thing I would have.)
If you don't mind, I'll type up a bit of Totally Hardbitten Streetwise Dude's narration while you're gone? Then you can look it over and tell me which bits you like when you get back.
"So, goin' straight down the spectrum of Hell, we start with Cyan. It slows down everything around you, seconds can be minutes, minutes can be days. Take enough and 'faster than a speeding bullet' is downright slow. Don't think it'll make you into Superman, though- the side effects tend to make users kinda... complacent."
"They say patience is a virtue, sure, but you gotta understand- so's moderation. On Cyan, doesn't matter how slow it all goes 'cause you're fine to just sit around and wait- even if you really oughtta get moving. Some drugs, people starve to death 'cause they can't afford to eat. Cyan, people starve to death 'cause they don't ever stand up to eat."
"You want the exact opposite of 'sit around and wait', well that's next on the list. Orange is the quickest way to make you quick, short of cramming a rocket up your ass. Easier on the pants, too. It jacks up the volume knob on your reflexes, makes you the speediest guy this side of Sonic the freakin' Hedgehog. ...Of course, it's got a side effect, too."
"Something about Orange dulls down the fear response to damn near nothing- other emotions, they stick around, but you can kiss your phobias goodbye."
"Sounds nice in theory, until you realize that it means you've got no sense of caution and you're going too fast for anyone to hold you back. Fools rush in... and then the angels get to explain to them why they feared treadin' in there in person."
"Blue, now, I dunno if it fucks with your inner ear or what, all this soulstuff goes way over my head, even if I got some stuck in my chest. All I know is Blue'll do some weird shit to your center of gravity, and how it feels to you. Down is up, up is down, and sideways is off somewhere in the next county. Fun, if you're not too prone to vertigo."
"Some people say if you get just the right dosage, you can use Blue to anchor yourself in place, sink your own gravity onto the spot so well no one can move you. Not something I feel like takin' chances with, to be real honest."
"But man, even Blue seems normal next to Purple. Take something violent and violet and it'll let you send your soul straight out of your body. Normally, it's on a two-inch tether, but a big hit can let you push it through solid objects without takin' so much as a scratch. Useful, if you wanna do some really weird spyin'."
"At least until they catch you. Make sure you get your soul back where it's supposed to be before the dose wears off, or you might never get it back at all."
"Green's up next, the only legal one of the bunch. This stuff doesn't have any negative effects, far as they can tell. It just boosts your body's own healing. Can repair damn near anything- cuts, burns, breaks, bruises, even starvation, from the way I hear it. Hospitals take willing donors, like a blood drive, all nice and official."
"Now you get Green in a hospital, they'll just hook you up to an IV, but lotta folks who get their hands on a personal use permit like to bake it into things. Guess it takes well to bein' cooked- I hear it goes great in scrambled eggs, if you can believe it. So everything's fine and dandy when we're in the Green..."
"Except donations'll only get you so much. Green can cure anything, but there's never enough to go 'round, and whoever got left out ain't gonna feel warm and fuzzy to the lucky bastard that got cured instead of 'em. There's rumors of people that don't ask nice before they take some, then hang around the hospital, waiting until they see..."
"Well, someone desperate. Someone who just found out that their prognosis is three weeks left, and the waiting list is three months long. Then they ask how much they're willing to pay. Easy for a gang to stay in business that way, too- they've got an advantage after every fight, as long as they keep some Green for personal use."
"Last, you've got Yellow. This stuff takes your sense past where you could ever send 'em- even someone on Cyan can only see with their normal vision, even if they've got two hours to look the scene over before a second goes by. Someone on Yellow, they hear like a bat, smell like a bloodhound, and can pick a target with pinpoint accuracy."
"Get a real good dose and you can pick out one drop of red wine on a wall-to-wall red carpet, then hit it with bullet from fifty yards out."
"Sad to say, though, just 'cause they're seeing clearly doesn't mean they're thinkin' clearly."
"Yellow's got a nasty habit of bringin' up delusions of grandeur, convinces people they've got the right to all kindsa power and authority, whether the rest of us know it or not. Guess somethin' about really bein' able to see the fall of every sparrow makes ya start feeling pretty godly."
"That's the main six. 'Course, the Devil's rainbow isn't the only game in town these days..."
(Aaaaand stopping here to wait for you, sorry about spamming your plurk with an OC who seems to think they're by Raymond Chandler.)
: D are you kidding be the opposite of sorry
Devil's Rainbow, nice
I love coming up with ridiculous fictional slang, it's so much fun.
one of the best parts of worldbuilding
don't let me stop you
Right up there with figuring out how many times you can get away with characters who unironically have apostrophes in their names. (Looking at you, Anne McCaffrey.)
what's that awfulfantasy tweet...? "the elf was so powerful he had no less than 20 apostrophes in his name"
I left out red because I'm assuming it's DT, as previously discussed. I also like the idea of LV being white, going with a kind of 'blank and empty inside' symbolism, plus the fact that monsters have white-to-grayish looking souls in canon.
I kind of went with it being black, mainly bc of goopface, and also that was the standard at the time.
If it can be made with monster dust, though, as in the original of this, that means something happens to it...
If it can be made with monster dust, though, as in the original of this, that means something happens to it...
for white i tend to across aus picture it as being a blend of all the colours? like a prism
but not sure how that might work here
but not sure how that might work here
that said, I do like the symbolism in white LV...
I normally go with white being the color of native monster magic, the very basic stuff that every one of them can do, but that's neither here nor there. Could be a fun irony in having the substance itself be white and one of the end-stage symptoms of overuse be Black Goop From Your Everywhere.
(I remember someone on tumblr suggesting that elves were the high-fantasy equivalent of southern, thus explaining all the apostrophes. "Behold, the legendary sword Y'All'D'Ve.")
(that's a good post)
gonna do more Raymond Chandler? : D
Oh God, I said thinks they're by Raymond Chandler. This is to his actual writing what a dragonfly is to Smaug. Assuming that dragonfly was smeared all over the cover of a Shadowrun sourcebook that someone tried to squash it with.
I do have one more idea, though...
pffft you sell yourself short
"KR isn't a habit. It's not traded, it doesn't have junkies, and no one uses it for fun."
"No one uses it more than once."
"Some drugs will give you bad trips- KR is all bad trips, nothing but, and nothing else compares. Every now and then you get some dumb young hardass who thinks they can take it, that all the stories are just exaggeration from people who couldn't handle seeing a few weird hallucinations. They never make that mistake again."
"Some drugs can work on fear, but KR works on guilt. And if you weren't the type to feel guilty at the time, you will be once it's done with you. Remember every bad thing you've ever done? No? Well, one hit'll fix that for you. If you're lucky, you'll forget most of it again once it wears off. If you aren't... most people can't live with it."
"KR takes every sin you've every committed, every wrong you've ever done, and feeds them all back into your brain at once, live and in Technicolor, complete with every detail picture-perfect and every victim's name in neon lights behind your eyelids."
"The hallucinations don't stop there, either. People screaming they hate you, screaming to know why you did it, just plain screaming... it goes on for a while. KR is divine punishment in a bottle, and even if it weren't so damn hard to make people still wouldn't use it for anyone other than their worst enemy. It's an effective torture, sometimes."
(hoooo boy
you feel your sins crawling on your back
nasty thing to give to someone
some more unscrupulous law enforcements might use it)
you feel your sins crawling on your back
nasty thing to give to someone
some more unscrupulous law enforcements might use it)
(but not on themselves)
"A few rumors say there are some really out-there religious cults who'll use it on themselves as an entry requirement- if you can survive the judgement of God, then you may become one of us and all that bullshit. I don't buy it, although I have seen people fucked up enough to try."
"There is... one rumor, that keeps popping up, though."
"Story goes that, same way ol' Mithridates built up a tolerance for cyanide with a little almond-scented something in his breakfast every day, with enough repeated use someone could eventually build up an immunity to KR. Now, I already call bullshit at anyone willingly taking more than one hit of the stuff, but the crazy don't stop there."
"Story goes that it didn't just make the guy who tried it immune, it made him a source. Normally, to get KR, you gotta mix Yellow and Purple with some high grade LV just right, pray to God the reaction doesn't blow you straight to Hell, and then distill it into something sharp and nasty. Frankly, it ain't worth the effort, a bat to the knee's cheaper."
"But this guy, the guy in the story, he took enough KR that it built up inside him, settled way deep down in the marrow of his bones. Marrow's where you make your blood, y'know. So rumor'd have it that now this guy doesn't feel KR, but he can give it to you with one good touch 'cause it's in his blood. Cut him and regret it- and everything else."
"Load of crap, gotta be. Dosing yourself on purpose, over and over? You'd have to be some kind of freak."
that's some interesting self-flagellation, Sans
(you think yellow or purple souls would particularly lend themselves well to this?)
(One of my headcanons is that Karmic Retribution comes from adding yellow magic to purple magic. Justice + Persistence = persistent justice, your sins following you as far as they have to go. It fits the pink-ish color, anyway.)
(Headcanon fully accepted my guy. I love colour combo magic. Fits the entrapment side of purple yeah)
(There was this cool fic I read with purple, purple, yellow. KARMA + INV. Slowly dying, depending on your LV, but utterly untouchable while you're doing so.)
(Ooh, neat trick if you're at level 1. I also wonder what might happen if you took the usual karma mix and threw in green magic. Maybe 'nothing, if you've got any EXP', but if you're completely free and clear there, instead you get Karmic Repayment, the universe rewarding you for your choices with some sort of healing and powerboost all in one.)
(Holy fuck now that's an interesting idea. OF course, you'd lose the INV bonus, since you wouldn't be taking damage)
(Karmic repayment's a cool idea. That's basically kind of the Burnt Pan's effect, isn't it?)
(Just it would be faster, at the cost of not working if you have LV)
(Yeah, if you wanted to do something with it, the real question would be how to make it seem special compared to normal healing. Maybe it also raises your maximum HP, even more than sleeping can?)
Oh I like that idea. I mean, for balance purposes I'd probably have it snap back after battles, but while in them defeating you would require a certain DPS
(and it might be limited to how much you're hit, like KR is, otherwise you could wait around in the menu screen until your HP bar went offscreen.)
(and it might be limited to how much you're hit, like KR is, otherwise you could wait around in the menu screen until your HP bar went offscreen.)
(Oh, I imagine the 'bright side' of KR would be a one-battle thing, some kind of special event, the same way it's more spiteful version only shows up in the Sans fight. Possibly you need to know how to use one to use the other, and no one else does... and Sans isn't trusting enough to try it.)
(Mm, I think in game it would be a special effect but in world there's nothing stopping it from happening other than the inherent difficulty and requirements, which make it very rare)
*special event sorry
frick tho imagine Sans applying it on Frisk in his Lost Soul battle, after he gets saved
a little something for the road
(Agreed. Guess you could say he didn't because the whole experience left him a little too... rattled to cast anything? : D)
(snrrrrtk or maybe his canon version just doesn't have the Green knowhow
learnt Blue, Cyan, Yellow and Purple, but not that)
learnt Blue, Cyan, Yellow and Purple, but not that)
(Kind of goes back to the old question of 'does anyone besides Sans know how to use KR, and how the fuck does it work anyway'. I've been going with 'actually combining magics, not just using one right after the other but really merging them, is so difficult and advanced basically no one can do it, Sans managed because he's been trying for many resets'.)
(Here, 'many resets' means 'Flowey's fuckbillion years worth of timelines that eventually added up to him studying it longer than most people have even been alive'. Sans isn't strong, but he's skilled, and he's had a lot of time to get that way.)
(Yeah like. I headcanon it's hard for monsters to learn coloured magic bc it's actually got to be learned instead of coming natural and most learn Green cos it's going to see the most use. (but they can learn any colour they put their mind to, although it's easier if their personality matches)
(merging them is hard bc you've got to really have a grasp on both components and then you've got to learn the combo in and out itself)
And yeah I do think Sans either studied it as part of Scienc or Resets, maybe both
(Exactly. So the number of people who've ever actually managed to merge types of magic is in the single digits, and KR may have been straight-up invented by Sans, if none of the previous people ever did that particular combination.)
(yessss precisely)
(I like tho think both human and monster schools of magic suffered from being separated - humans the most, they lost it pretty much entirely bc they wiped out all the knowledge and users like paranoid numpties.
(Yup. Sans has a lot of things that seem really impressive, but in actuality it's just like 'oh god no, you just think that because you didn't see the literal centuries I spent fucking up uselessly, I can only do all this cool shit because someone's been resetting for so long I've had like infinity amounts of practice time.')
('the first time I set my jacket on fire and cried.')
but coloured magic is something humans specialised in, bc they had to really, and any crosspollinated knowledge passed down by monsters has probably been really stagnant - new discoveries are rare
pffffft Sans
(the souls were probs a boon as far as r & d went)
god tho Sans is such a scholar fighter it's impressive
like the same purple magic he's using in KR is probably what's also blocking out your invincibility frams
*frames
he has four colours down. The most we see from a non human soul having monster other than him is three, and Asgore's lived for millenia
(admittedly he's been mostly doing gardening in that time)
(Gardening and serial murder. ...Okay no, unfair, I'm sure most of his life was peaceful and kind, especially pre-War. Pre-War Asgore must have been such a sweetheart, it hurts to think about.)
(But yeah, years of 'uproot the dandelions before they choke out the flowerbed' versus years of 'uproot Flowey before he causes the apocalypse', you're going to get different magical focuses.)
(tbf though, I do think Sans doesn't remember resets so it's probably like... when you learn something and you totally forget it after the exams but when you try to learn it again it comes easier? type thing)
(must be pretty weird for him bc the moment he tries learning it it's like everything just clicking intuitively into place and then he hits a brick wall bc he hasn't got that far)
(I've been assuming that he doesn't remember anything clearly, but he gets the occasional little scrap of recall. Just tiny things, barely more than a couple seconds per timeline, but Flowey was just resetting for so fucking long that it all added up to ages, bit by bit.)
(yesssss exactly)
(Sans is like... he was made to be the most fragile little supporting caster mage type, if that. More likely, he's that one joke character you fight in the funny minigame- only one damage per hit, the easiest enemy, he could never really hurt you.)
(...And then he didn't have anyone else to support, the joke wasn't funny anymore, and no one was going to fight this but him. So he got his shit together, figured out how to cheat like a motherfucker, and went from 'laughably weak' to 'WHERE IS YOUR GOD FINAL BOSS NOW'.)
pfffffft yes
he exploits everything because he has to
he exploits everything because he has to
like if he had started out with more HP, more DEF, more ATK, he probs wouldn't know half this stuff
the Lethal Joke Character
I remember toying with an idea about 'what if the Secret Gaster Backstory was that they figured out they were in a video game, and wound up becoming fully self-aware right before the video game got reprogrammed by it's creator'.
pfft maybe they confronted the Annoying Dog and it didn't end well
Yeah, I was thinking something like absurdist humor meets cosmic horror. Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Undead And Super Pissed.
frrrrrrrrrriike write it Echo, write it
A lot heavier on the horror than the humor, mind you. I remember the idea was essentially that they knew they were video game characters in a work in progress, trying to hold on to their lives and their world as it got rewritten around them by someone who didn't even think of them as real.
The shock of not just losing your world, but having it have never been. Trying to remember the people they've lost, the parts of themselves they've lost or unwillingly gained, as everyone's roles and story are changed.
Gaster gets deleted- because he reached too far, into Things He Was Not Meant To Know from their perspective, but also from another perspective because his character kept glitching for reasons none of the programmers could figure out, so they decided to just scrap a bunch of data and start over.
imagine knowing your brother used to be a brony
but fuck yes I really love the meta level stuff as in universe lovecraft horror?
The life of a self-aware video game character AI is filled with great suffering, but very little dignity. (Sans may feel immensely guilty for preferring this version of Papyrus.)
like for example the idea that Frisk and Chara's revival/fusion is what opened the door to... something
(after all, humans can't absorb human souls...)
the Thing From The Void
A being from beyond their world, entering through its avatar to toy with them for its own amusement.
no idea about this world just wants to explore it and have fun, kind of has problem seeing the things around it as people even if it likes them... very fae. Very True Fae
Knowing that their world exists for their amusement, being provided solely as entertaining by another being of the same unknowable order, a creator-deity who loves them but does not care about them.
Sans' right to judge is god-given. He fervently wishes it wasn't.
He knows that his people are loved, in the sense that an artist loves their work- with as much fondness for their suffering as their triumph, and absolutely no concern for their own desires on the matter.
hhhhhhhhhhhhhh spot on
a game of white dog and black dog
(gonna use his god-given right to judge to judge the god)
(The Judge of God is a title with multiple potential interpretations.)
(human name of Daniel pfft)
(There's a reason why Bastille's Daniel in the Den is another one of my Sans songs.)
the real knife wouldn't even exist if players hadn't turned everything upside down looking at it, so i like to imagine it as a fang getting incorporated into the weave
and it's why the player is connected to Frisk through Chara and how Chara can fill the screen with nines and end the world
they're using a weapon not quite of it
and it's why the player is connected to Frisk through Chara and how Chara can fill the screen with nines and end the world
they're using a weapon not quite of it
(oh my god)
Everything is simultaneously a real thing and a false creation, and seeing them on both levels at once from the inside will fuck you up.
: D I always called bullshit on Lovecraftian "seeing this will destroy your mind" but fuck this really would
I know one of my ideas was that, in the 'original storyline' Sans and Gaster came from, the one that got rewritten, Sans' original role was this... sweet, friendly comic-relief sidekick.
His story was being the research assistant and right-hand man of the stoic and intimidatingly brilliant Dr. Gaster, with a running gag about his hopelessly adoring crush on his hopelessly oblivious boss.
A little bit like Alphys, a little bit like Papyrus, still recognizably himself but so very different in so many ways.
frrrrrrrrrrrrick
"and a XXXXXXXX called XXXXXXXX" as the artbook puts it.
His role in the story was to help guide the player through the Underground- too weak to be of any use in a fight, but he's kind and helpful with information, and he'll try to keep your spirits up with silly jokes. Even his one HP is part of him being designed to be harmless- here is the one monster who'd never ever hurt you, he couldn't if he tried.
Your silly little very best friend, who'd never dream of hurting a fly.
And then things start changing, the man he loves and idolizes twists himself out of recognition before twisting out of reality, he learns that he's a fictional creation at the hands of an uncaring creator... so he tries to talk to them.
To befriend them, because that's what they made him for, right? To be friendly and cheerful and make people smile, so that has to be the answer. And if he's just good enough, then they'll be satisfied and stop all this.
hoo boy that sure wouldn't go well
how much of Sans's current characterisation was inspired by him doing this??
a horrific feedback loop
how much of Sans's current characterisation was inspired by him doing this??
a horrific feedback loop
you're the sort of person who'll however gently, try to call out god? you're the sort of person you'll call out god
BREAKS INTO UR HOUSE
DID I MENTION I LOVE THE DT AU WHEEEEEEZE
(I add my weird headcanons to other's AU for you, my vaporious friend.)
So he tries and he tries and the world keeps tearing itself apart and rebuilding around him, and Sans loses more and more of himself as he keeps increasingly desperately trying to fix it all, to do the write thing that'll make it all okay, oh my god, oh, my God, just tell me what you want so I can do it I swear I'll do it please.
in fact, you can judge the god this world is made for
lol the 'write' thing
HI VAPES
And, on another level, someone notices the character they're trying to program glitching in odd little ways. Ha ha, how funny, it almost makes it look like it's trying to talk to us. Say now, there's an idea for a plot twist. Didn't they want the game to be a bit meta, anyway?
(He's this way because he inspired them, he inspired them because they wrote that he did. The cause is the cause is the cause.)
HE IS ALREADY HERE
mmmmmmmmmm yessss : D
AND HE WISHES HE WASN'T.
I wonder how aware Flowey is of this too
but man, poor Sans
Echo, you gotta write this
I think that Flowey has stumbled across a lot of the what, but knows little to nothing of the why. (Sans is the reverse.) His determination allows him access to a lot of things the undetermined, including Sans, can't touch, and he's certainly thought that the world is a lot like a game, but he's never quite realized it literally is one.
Worse, he thinks that it's like a game because he made it that way, and that he's the only real player. Do not attempt to usurp your creator, even unknowingly, unless you are prepared to follow through.
(He is not prepared.)
hahahaha hoo boy
That poor boy.
man the two people who really need to swap notes are the two people who hate each other
(Honestly, Sans and Asriel each having one half of the answer is one of my theories about canon. Sans almost certainly can't remember saves and reloads, but has a picture from before a True Reset. Flowey explicitly can't remember True Resets, but does remember saves and reloads.)
The reason why I'm not writing this is one part laziness and one part the fact that, as with all my ideas, I have a bunch of largely unconnected interesting pieces and no idea how to turn them into a coherent whole.
((can i add smth 2 the dt au idea pile??))
((also echo these r GUD))
((go ahead : D))
(Thank you, and I'd love to see your DT idea.)
lays down, time for my self indulgent 2 cents
anyway i dont know how you hc how these drugs got discovered lint
but i could see it being a very unfortunate consequence of some initially well intentioned medical research
So, human equivalent of Alphys?
(Also, I don't know how you think this is more self-indulgent than my WALL OF EXISTENTIALIST TEXT up there.)
this is a personal hc of mine but i believe that for like naturally born mages, they're producing more magic/dt/soul stuff then a normal human should and thats whats letting them start affecting the real world with their souls.
and for a REALLY STRONG MAGE YOUR GONNA BE NEED TO BE PRODUCING WAY MORE SOUL STUFF THEN A HUMAN SOUL SHOULD EVER BE DOING
oooooooh i like this idea
and without the use of magic, having to much of that can get, fucky, like if ur body was producing steriods constantly, it wears u down.
so imagine, in this au magic has been lost and a hospital gets a rare case of this absolute utter protegee suddenly falling deathly ill
Ohhh no...
This won't end well.
this person has been the utter top of their field, modivated, seemingly totally healthy, MORE then healthy perhaps,
and then boom. collapsing, muscles atrophying, something is burning their body out they can't detect.
and souls have probubly always been a Known Thing like observable, its just usually they just sit there, they're not supposed to leak
there might have been a few prerecorded cases of this before, a few papers written on soul theory, a few dimissed accounts of people wasting away. but fuck that this is the modern age!!
if this poor fucks soul has to much stuff, lets make like the middle ages and try and leech a bit out.
and in this case, 'bloodletting' actually works
(fuck tho, DT AU Frisk would probs need medical extraction then)
which considering their past..
which considering their past..
((yyyeeah ;w
no no no plurk dont do that
there
heheheh
plurk knows what's up
(i wonder if Toriel and Asgore thought this was what was happening to Chara)
but yeah and so extraction started as a thing that saved somebodys life! but this poor fool was making so much of this soul stuff and they were like sure science can have it bc u KNOW people would be all over studying RAW HUMAN ESSANCE
(Asgore in particular, if Kalak...)
((OOH YEAH PROBUBLY IF THEY KNEW ABT IT))
So they put it in rats probably (those poor rats)
Well, if it was green they'd probably live?
(Any other color, those rats are fucked.)
i think they'd start with small doses, or try and find the correct doses, or maybe it only works on humans etc!
I think you can probably have like
Too Much Green
like a shield that doesn't let in air or like. cancer'
Too Much Green
like a shield that doesn't let in air or like. cancer'
or a healing factor so good some body fuctions stop working
I did say 'probably'.
cells cant die.
and you kind of rely on apoptosis daily so who knows what that would do
(again, probably cancer)
magic death is super rare but super nasty
anyway they probubly figured out the effects of human injection eventually and it all went on from there
mmmhm
time to get some of that sweet, sweet soulstuff
time to get some of that sweet, sweet soulstuff
(god tho Alphys would be in hot demand in this world, and also probably horrifed)
Alphys, please don't become a drug dealer. Asgore will come to your house and give you the Just Say No talk, it will be sad and terrible for everyone.
snrrrk, well, probs actually for the above board science and medicine type thingers... but also there too
(man, the legitimate uses for these substances are probably tightly controlled. they don't strike me as easy to dispose of, esp DT)
I had some of that in my Hardboiled Narrator bit on Green.
: D yesss i love it
frick tho i wonder if you can get like
licenses for specific colours
licenses for specific colours
I imagine that some of the others are authorized for official government use, by soldiers and intelligence agents, but Green is the only one that's fully legal for even average civilians, as long as they can afford it (and get a license.)
jinx
and there's probs a massive problem with practitioners hitting the stuff
So, a government organization might be able to apply for a license, no chance on normal people getting it legally? Say, a police department could apply to use Purple, but they have a high likelihood of being turned down, and some random guy asks then it's just a flat 'no'.
yeah, paperwork and bureaucracy and ID and everything
Police might probably apply for Cyan more, or rarely Yellow
Are you going to use this Yellow to become a cackling megalomaniac and try to conquer Canada, check yes or no.
If yes, why.
XD there's probably mandated 'Yellow-minders'
let you get your ranting done, make sure you don't do anything stupid, ask you what you found out when it wears off
It's like being personal secretary to a supervillain...
or a vigilante's sidekick
a lot of smile and nod
I like the idea of there being more specific street slang for people who use specific colors. I don't know what I'd pick for each, but I have this image of someone referring to Yellow users as "all the golden boys and girls."
not just for people who use the colour, but also those who have that soul colour - probably some overlap there
(So, the person with that job would say that they're busy "managing the golden boy our department got approved to work with".)
which can lead to confusion
(ooooh I like)
(and someone else might mention 'they've given us another piss-ladle' if they're not exactly happy about this)
Similarly, the scary as fuck criminal lady who uses Yellow to stay ahead of the game would be a golden girl. (Pfft. I feel like the slang for natural soul color versus drug use would be slightly different, but they'd probably have some overlap.)
(yeah, exactly)
(bc lbr in this world knowing your soul colour would be like knowing your horoscope. they'd probably be all sorts of stereotypes. people would comment on actions or personality as colours - "he's a bit green" "stop being so orange"
like not often or always, but it'd be a thing probs)
like not often or always, but it'd be a thing probs)
I think the term for an Orange user would be something about a 'warning sign without the warning', because roadsigns come in reflective orange and they have no goddamn common sense.
XD 'the back of a warning sign' maybe
bc when you've already gone past it, it's too late
also, Annoying Orange jokes
Yes, perfect. As in 'she's the type who always reads the back of the warning sign'. They wave at it in the rearview mirror as they go by. (To be fair, not everyone would know what their color is. I'm thinking like bloodtype- it's easy to get tested for it, but you might not bother if you don't have a reason to.)
Cyan, maybe something like cold-hearted, because it's an icy blue color, and people on it can probably seem detached and uncaring a lot of the time? Coldhearts? Ice Queens (and/or Kings)?
(yeah bloodtype's about right)
cyan the substance as 'ice nine'
Someone was a sci-fi nerd, huh?
shut up
i mean
yes
I meant the person in-universe, I got the reference too, I can't tease you for it. : D
So, yeah, Ice 9 for the stuff itself and Ice Queens for the users. (I wonder if people made really awful jokes about Elsa, when Frozen came out in this AU?)
hahaaha probably
some edgy artist on dA: elsa was on cyan
Some parents group probably protested the movie for having 'inappropriate imagery'.
LEGIT THAT
she was in a coma from use and starving
oh my god
He probably has an entire series of Disney princesses on all six. He keeps telling people it's a comment on modern consumerism.
(also i wonder if for purple users there's some play on the stuff's stringiness/viscosity like 'sticky people')
ppffft
Sticky fingers, maybe? If it's one of the more addictive ones, they might also have a reputation for being more likely to steal to support a habit, too.
oooh yeah
it encourages persistence, after all
it encourages persistence, after all
They're persistant, they don't let go of what they take, so it's 'stuck'.
yes perfect
(or if they do let go, it's to get something else)
I'm gonna say that someone on Blue is said to 'have their head in the clouds' because blue skies and gravity perception going weird. Blue's also the color of water, though, so they'll also call overdosing 'drowning'.
(Puts an... uncomfortable spin on Muffet's acquisitiveness in this AU, given the color she's associated with. Oh shit, I'm the edgy dA artist, it's me.)
There are probably fewer of the more derogatory names for Green users, since it's more likely to be legal and used by someone seriously injured or otherwise in need. Maybe 'tree-huggers' for recreational users, since green leaves and kindness probably fitting in pretty well with the peace and love type hippie attitude?
oooh I like that idea
a double meaning to 'green thumb' too
Yes, definitely liking green thumb. Term for someone who's got a knack for baking it into food, like I mentioned? (I admit, I did put that in partially as a joke about pot brownies.) The term for a DT user is just 'determined', because they aren't interested in fucking around with euphemisms when they've got shit to do.
(Some people probably do say that they're 'seeing red' when they're out of earshot, though.)
(fuck yes)
ohohoh yeah
i'm still laughing at the idea
that people might try to get monsters as customers
because they have to (and do) dilute the dose a lot
which means they can make their stocks last longer for more money
"You fought an entire war over this shit and now you're just handing it to us? What the fuck?"
Also: the term for a habitual KR user is Sans, because no one else pulls that masochistic bullshit oh my God what were you thinking.
i mean, you can probably buy entire souls on the black market now
Sans why the fuck
I have no idea why he started taking it often enough to acquire an immunity, but it's probably this AU's Gaster's fault.
(There is, however, a term for someone who gets dosed and can't recover from the guilt of whatever they wound up seeing. They're called 'sinners'.)
(They usually don't last long)
(They're in Hell. They want out.)
(Sometimes you can show them a path. Other times they make a quicker one for themselves.)
*You sure do like washing your hands
On a less depressing note, I was briefly wondering if the effects of 'patience without self-preservation' and 'impulse control what impulse control' could cancel each other out, so I thought 'what happens if someone takes Orange and Cyan at the same time?' And my immediate answer was 'I'm pretty sure your head explodes'.
its like when u do and upper and a downer
which i think works. it'd be double downing thats more dangerous
orange + cyan turns u into The Flash
also DT is a bad idea to take w anything
yes, even patience
dt is a pure amplifyer
i'll combo with anything
kr dt combos were rumored to be experiemnted with nce
u have a colour that boosts A Thing and then you have a colour that Boosts again rip you brave mad soul
oh my dog no KR would be terrible with it
DT stands for Don't Try (this at home, kids).
Could be worse- rumor has it someone once tried to take KR with LV. Hopefully they died.
ppfffft yes
honestly I called it Drug Trade AU and then I was like 'wait that's an acronym i'm a genius'
that oneshot u wrote for it will always hurt me
Well I didn't notice the acronym until now, so clearly you're better at it than me.
snrrrk
: D i'm proud of the oneshot
(i'm proud of the one shot through that kidnapper's head like thank you but you are also terrible)
(i'm proud of the one shot through that kidnapper's head like thank you but you are also terrible)
hey that kidnapper did smth good!!
she got frisk past a few doors!!
(shame Frisk's parents weren't there to get ricochet damage)
god the description of frisk just sort of flopping around quietly will always be similtationously adorable and horrifying
that's true
i love how it's an inverse of undertale's 'good intentions, bad actions'
'bad intention, good action'
i love how it's an inverse of undertale's 'good intentions, bad actions'
'bad intention, good action'
wait how you getting adorable fromt that
...Okay, now I have the terrible urge to combine the original AU's misconception about Sans with what we just suggested about KR. "A-are you taking DT?" "nope, wrong drug, guess again. : D"
that's not sleepy lolling that's 'i think this kid drowned someone perform CPR' lolling
omfg
because....u pick them up
maybe ive worked with 2 many sleepy kids but the mental image i got was more like that rip.
XD that's fine I didn't go into that much detail either way
and it works either way too
like on one hand, oh god they're all soul drained
there's a reason I made the intruder female, to kind of poke fun at the expectations people place there
on the other: if u picked them up by the waist would they flop over like a puppy
they dangle. arms dangle
admit it, a little cute
frisk is just naturally cute
oh yes, Frisk is cute : D
Cute as a button. A red button. The red button, that you press to launch a nuke.
*Flirt
that's the button
You blush so hard you explode it's what really happened to Tsundereplane.
red soul trait: flirt
red soul trait: gay as fuck
anyway where were we
It's red for passion (Frisk strikes a dramatically overdone tango pose with a fake rose in their teeth. Mettaton applauds his student wildly.)
his protege is doing so well
I'll tell you where I should be: in bed. Because it's 1:45. Guess where I'm not.
go to beeeeeeed
(the 'why are people interesting at 2am' curse strikes again)
red soul trait: going tf to sleep
Echo has a red soul, it's canon
Well then I guess we know what color no one here is, now don't we.
(which one was yours, meme?)
oh?
(See you guys in the morning, sweet dreams.)
((i got bravery or integrity when i took a test if thats watchur askin)
Seeya echo!
(ya it what i'm asking. seems about right)
(if I had to pick I'd put you bravery, def)
((slams hands down! fight fight fight!))
((wh abt u tho)
((idk. sometimes I think patience (to my detriment a lot of the time - I feel for Aaron Burr) and sometimes I think Integrity.
Got called persevering in a report card once but people seem to pick that one a lot.
Not really justice, or kindness, or bravery i don't think)
Got called persevering in a report card once but people seem to pick that one a lot.
Not really justice, or kindness, or bravery i don't think)
y!Chara > y!Kalak also, for u...
which one you think?
((cute))
(ehehe))
((if there was a trait that encompessed like, observation, an eye for detail, good thinking! that would probubly be it))
((so patience might work in that respect!))
((yeah tha def seems to be patience : D
observing and then striking at the right moment))
observing and then striking at the right moment))
(the other candidate for that is justice but lmao)
y!Chara > y!Kalak meme is hurting me
shelvy
says
HELLO
SUP