because I don't want to just rant. XD

I'M SO SAD ABOUT THE MARS ROVERS.

THEY WORK SO HARD AND THEY'LL NEVER GET TO COME HOME.

XD

(Hi I'm actually a physicist believe it or not)

( That is awesome)

(And I still cry over Curiosity.)

( I'm a highschool drop out with basically only random science I've picked up because awesome. so An actual brain talking about space with me is a yay )

I'm not an astrophysicist by a long shot but I love my field.

any science is better then none?

bounces

True.

Mars is neat because it might have had primordial life once. Now its core has solidified, though, so no magnetic field to keep out cosmic radiation, which blew its atmosphere away.

That is really cool actually.

It's why small planets, even in the goldilocks zone, can't support life.

Like I know it used to have oceans right? Because their cores go out?

wow Two different thoughts at once there sorry

Yeah, their cores freeze.

And yeah, used to be blue and beautiful.

I wonder if there would ever be a way to I donno reheat a core.

See i have no idea if that was a stupid thought XD

Maybe with nukes but that'd also, y'know, irradiate it.

hums So it's not actually a silly thought.

Kinetic bombardment could also work!

Because energy is hot. nods

Yep!

But nothing will bring the atmosphere BACK.

bounces Ok saying we could somehow relight a planet....

nothing can be done for the atmosphere?

Ok what makes an atmosphere?

We still can't bring back an atmosphere.

The release of gasses as the planet cools.

head tilt

Well. Then why couldn't re just release those needed gasses?

Because they were alreasy released.

The stone doesn't have any more.

Plus we'd have to melt the whole planet to slag.

Yeah. But I mean. I mean Just releasing those gasses ourselves.

Where would we get them?

Well what are the gasses?

Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon, and Hydrogen.

Mostly.

We could raid a star, but that's probably a bad way to do it.

we can make those though can't we?

Sorta.

We can make trace amounts of highly energized and/or radioactive versions through fission.

I'm saying this shit like it's simple. i know.

But fission reactions are not easy to maintain.

We could probably use our excess atmospheric carbon, and there's oxygen and hydrogen in mars' polar ice caps, but nitrogen is in a super delicate cycle on earth.

I'm not even thinking making them all at once. just we know how to make those gasses individually don't we?

They're basic elements, so can only be produced by fusion or fission.

oh ok hums

It sounds like Nitrogen would be the hardest to get.

Yes.

I'm pretty much sitting here like. It actually sounds possible but insanely fucking hard to the point of laughably never going to happen with what we have currently.

If we nuke it to slag it may release enough gases, but it'll still cool again.

Would slagging something else work if we stole the gasses?

And yeah, pretty much. Until we can tap stars for gases, we can't easily remake an atmosphere, so we're better off searching fr life-supporting exoplanets.

Could but transporting's an issue too.

We've been seeking goldilocks exoplanets for about 30 years, and they're hard to find, but we've found several.

Including one around Alpha Centauri.

I was just following that thought mostly There would be insanely easier ways to waves hand I donno colonize.

Long way away though

The issue with That thought line is the Travel more then anything.

So lets follow that.

Our best bet would be nuking the planet into slag in such a way that the energy levels on the surface were appropriate for the breakdown of calcium and silicon into C, H, O, and N.

But that's REALLY HARD.

All of it is really hard. and it's awesome.

We could also siphon gas giants, maybe.

oh!

Thats a thought

But that's not easy either.

Currently people are working on occluders and telescopes to analyze exoplanets.

nods

Travel.

Yeah.

It's not easy.

bounces What would be the easiest Way to figure out?

But it's easier to sustain a ship for generations than to terraform a planet, in theory.

Sure. Generation Ships would be the simplest...in some ways.

Well, we've got these AWESOME microwave emission impulse engines now. They work basically forever on principles we still don'

*don't fully get, but they work.

And they can very slowly accelerate something forever.

We still don't know how gravity or brains works so i'm not shocked

So you push something out of atmosphere and it's got decent speed and then you switch to these things and you can just go faster and faster forever.

Until things start getting relativistic, anyway.

There are speed limits and other forces involved.

Gotta push against radiation and cosmic background junk.

But we can do it.

It would still take....insane time.

Yes.

Generations.

And a large ship to support the project.

And it would need to be an Ark.

But it's possible, we just need to know that our goal is worthwhile.

Basically, yeah.

Though we'd probably want to minimize invasive species, so we'd mostly ship humans and food crops.

Embryos

Could work, but we'd need to have educated people on board as well.

It'd be a little society.

And it would take a hell of a lot of People willing to die on a ship and have their children's children's children die on that ship

And hope The generation that gets there Gives even a Little damn

Yeah.

It's better to work on preservation of our current planet.

Well yeah.

but Space

I knooooow it's so cool!

Preservation will be another plurk because more science yes.

bounces

If you got your GED you could always go to uni someday, study this stuff.

laughs Working on it. ive actually graduated ged class three times....

it's getting to a Testing center for the Big test thats fucked me.

/nods

I'm hoping to get it done this year though and start applying for schools for the coming year.

I'm planning on softer sciences ( Anthropology )

But i may find harder sciences more to my liking in practice who knows?

I Just. I like thinking about This sort of thing.

It's fun!

Think tanking about anything is fun

Lets try another Travel thought. Generation ship is out for the moment. Whats another way we could pull it off?

Relativistic ship.

Fast enough you mean?

Time dilation would make time flow slower for the astronauts, and it'd eat up space like whoa.

black hole energy?

What do you mean?

waves hand Any time Time flow comes up in just about any Sci-bullshit stuff at least when it comes to time in one place moving slower it has to do with black holes in some way.

like I said I know very very little

quietly googles Relativistic

So you're talking Warp drive?

Basically!

but could we get it to work is the question.

If you get the aforementioned engines going long enough, you theoretically can.

Could our bodies deal with it though?

Yeah.

From inside the ship, we're fine.

How close are we to managing it? I mean money aside.

In theory? We can do it. In practice, we can't do it fast enough.