I'm going to say Neutral Good. It just feels right.

aw! : D i feel like it fits, but I'm curious about your reasoning

I was thinking true neutral!

(i'm so sorry goops. when will my tags return from the war)

ooooh go on

Idk, there's not much to reason with since I feel like I haven't gotten to know you that much, but it's the like, vibes I get from your plurks???

Ask me in a couple of months and I may change

nods that's fair, and TN is pretty much like 'default human choices'

tbh I don't know either, maybe I will someday

i am a mysterious individual

I just think of you as a kind person, but not really driven to extremes on either philosophical side?

i try to be kind

don't always succeed, but i try

About all most of us can do.

thanks for the nodding emote btw : D

No worries, I got it from someone on here myself. What goes around comes around. : D

>lab

time to teach the kidders

and make sure they don't pour bleach into the spectrophotometers

By 'kids' do you mean 'undergraduate students' or 'literal children'? Because sadly you might have an easier time of it with the second one.

undergrads : D

we've got a surprisingly good lot tho

tidy and prepared

but that is how u do a science rite

Glad to hear it. Which class is this, exactly?

that is how you make the poor guy who has to clean the spectrophotometers very shirty with us

CHEM111

Given how you were describing it, I thought chemistry seemed likely, but I figured it was also possible that you were just doing some other kind of science in very interesting ways. : D

Good egg

lint is personality wise nuetral good, writing wise chaotic nuetral

a capricious god of words

i will be kind to my written subjects... at first...

EchoDoctor : D it could possibly have been biology

also @ everyone:

bam

Clever. : D

finger guns

where were we

nice post paci headcanons i think

That and sad human mage headcanons, yes. I still have a wonderful soft spot for 'Alphys builds Asriel and Chara cool robot bodies to help them somehow', by the way. I feel like this plotline should be explored in depth.

i love it because the kids would get to design them and you know they'd be extra

and that Toriel would have to veto some things

Chara could be a monster!!

Behold the adorable mighty and terrifying goat-o-tron.

it breathes fire

also Frisk is probs now the shorty of the trio

(did i tell u about the idea they get a mecha so robot rough and tumble can happen?
Iron Frisk)

Yes, good, perfect. They didn't even ask for a mecha, Alphys just wanted to be the favorite aunt and she went for it

best science aunt

she was like 'well i;m already making two robots...'

also Papyrus is probs ambassador in this universe, give the kids a break

I usually assume that Frisk's role is just, like 'introduce the monsters to make sure they don't actually get shot the very first time they meet humans, then just show up to the occasional friendly event'. More of a ceremonial thing than anything else, they make sure to only give them the occasional small thing to avoid too much stress.

nods yeah

I do think Asgore meant the role ceremoniously both times
there's the risk that Frisk might take it as seriously as Chara did

Yeah, hopefully they'll be more careful here. Because, like... they're trying to integrate two different species and having a cute kid there to persuade people is way too useful to pass up completely, but they also love Frisk and don't want to put the poor kid under ridiculous amounts of stress.

So it's less 'be an actual member of government' and more 'hey, we're doing a cultural outreach thing where we share stories from monster literature at the library this Saturday, do you want to go too? You don't have to, and you can just sit and listen if you feel like it, but you can read a story for people if you want, too'.

They get to show up for more relaxed, gentle charity type stuff, Spider Bake Sales (new and improved, now without threats of being eaten) and that sort of thing, not just chucking them in the political deep end.

nods

side of the road, selling spider cider

(the spittakes, admittedly, can be hilarious)

I just really love the idea of Frisk being sort of collectively adopted by most of the monster community? Toriel is probably their main legal guardian, but they've got this whole huge extended family that loves them a bunch and is always around somewhere. : D

"So you've got your brother and your sibling and your mom and your dad and your emergency backup dad because mom and dad one aren't on speaking terms and your nerd aunt and your cool aunt and your cool uncle and your hot uncle and his cousin who's your cousin now too and your grandpa who came back from the Void. And friends." -family, as explained by Frisk.

: D it takes a village to raise a child, literally

god tho i do love this idea bc everyone has problems but they all do their best and work together

also Undyne teaching Frisk how to suplex

Yesss. I'm not sure any one of the monsters would be a great parent all on their own (although they would all be good people who try their hardest, which is certainly better than some options), but all of them working together can give these kids the childhood they deserve. : D

Also, unrelated to fandom, but are you good with people? My roommates are confusing me with something they're doing right now...

I don't know my skill level in this area but I'm willing to give a shot at this mystery

what are they doing?

I went into the bathroom and there was an entirely new roll of toilet paper sitting on the floor near where the toilet roll holder was on the wall, which had a bare cardboard tube on it but no toilet paper. I feel sort of like they're trying to communicate something about my housekeeping here, but I don't know what.

Like, why not just put the new roll on the holder instead of just leaving it on the floor? Did they forget???

Options I can think of so far: was going to change the toilet paper but got distracted halfway through, decided that since the toilet paper was near the holder their duty was done since the next person could use it, this is some kind of prank, an artistic statement is being made

I think 'eh, close enough' might be the most likely answer, but I don't know the temperament of your roommate

Yeah, that seems plausible. There didn't appear to be anyone anywhere near it with any likelihood of coming back, so I was just looking at it lying on the floor like '...there's a message here and I have no idea what it is'.

I'm one of those people who wants to be a good roommate, but I'm so bad at picking up hints that if you want something done you have to go really obvious. Like, post-it note on the door that says 'vacuum your fucking carpet, Echo' obvious.

post it notes make the world a clearer place

I once left one above the kitchen sink that said 'if I wind up hearing the faucet dripping loudly in the middle of the night because someone didn't turn it off right one more time I'm going to stand out here at 2 AM and scream : D'.

Complete with smiley. I like to take the 'passive' out of 'passive-aggressive'.

: D did you end up screaming

Not yet. : D

(Let's see if they can last the next two weeks until I go home for the summer.)

(fingers crossed. water torture isn't fun)

In all fairness, it's not totally their fault? For some reason, all the sinks in our dorm do this weird thing where they won't shut off completely and just keep dripping steadily unless you have the handle tilted juuust the right way. I have no idea why.

We had maintenance in here a while ago and it seemed like they fixed it for a while, but then it came back. Dorm life is fun. : D

darnit

So on one hand, I do feel like it's ridiculous that we have to do this in the first place...

but on the other hand, I'm like 'why has apparently nobody else in this dorm figured out that you have to leave the handle at this angle if you don't want it to drip forever? it is not a subtle problem, everyone can hear it, YOU ALL MADE IT TO COLLEGE YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT OUT DAMMIT'

Nope, apparently I am the Sink Whisperer, and everyone just leaves them all dripping until I come by and jiggle the handle back into the right position. I don't even fucking know.

maybe some kind of marker needs to happen like
draw some lines on either side of the optimal position

that way people have no excuse

I drew them a diagram.

On another post-it note.

It's been gone for three weeks now and I don't know who took it down.

hmmm

that seems mean

it;s difficult to tear down lines scored in metal i think

Mean as in me or the person who took it down? Because I was worried a literal labeled diagram was a little condescending and excessive, but I was beginning to get slightly desperate and I didn't want to leave any room for ambiguity.

(I guess I could have drawn it without the labels, but my artwork isn't that great and I wanted to clear up any confusion that might have been caused by my recently-discovered inability to draw a good faucet.)

mean as in the person who took it down

you were being very clear

Eh, like I said, it's a really small thing and I go home for the summer pretty soon anyway. Besides, pretty much anything seems nice and reasonable compared to the roommate who threatened to kill me a couple years ago. Sorry for derailing the conversation, I just get kind of fussy about the Joys of Dorm Life sometimes. : D

holy shit what the fuck

why the dick

She doesn't live here anymore. I think she might be hiding from the cops?

(Not because of threatening me, she stole some stuff.)

(Like, a lot of stuff. Mostly not from me, all the things expensive enough to push it into major territory came from our other two roommates.)

Also her boyfriend was already a convicted felon, so that might have been part of it. He was living with her, but not officially.

That was not a great six months, roommate-wise. This is much better.

you live a wild life my friend

I... really don't? I think? Mostly as far as I can tell I just sit here reading fanfic and then weird shit happens around me, and sometimes if I'm at a boring part I look up and go 'huh', and then go back to reading.

snrkrrk you're a background character i love it

or an interesting slice of life

Let's hope it's a nice, optimistic genre.

me too : D

ok so

lets compare fandoms see if we can get a crossover going

So, quick question then: have you got any familiarity with Fallen London?

!!!!

: D I sure do oh my god

Because I noticed something that could work. : D

go go go lemme pull up my lawnchair

Please consider: Sans is a Judge, who loves the stars. The Judgements, if my lack of in-depth knowledge of this game does not betray me, are stars. I therefore posit that Fallen London crossover AU Sans is a rogue Judgement.

(Like, I could be mistaken because I've only read the lore, not played the game? But holy shit, what I've read fits in weird ways.)

(I've played, but not so much as to get my hands on Deep Lore first hand)
(also play iiiiit : D)

does that make Papyrus also one? or is he adopted?

(honestly I could see Papyrus Falling first, and Sans following him)

My thought was... okay, again, I'm poor and can't afford video games so correct me if I'm wrong here but- souls travel up the Great Chain of Being as they get more and more refined through many lives until they truly achieve perfection, yes?

And most of those that do reach that point are devoured by Judgements. But theoretically, one of those souls could become a new Judgement.

theoretically
mind you, the Great Chain of Being is something enforced by the judgements

Right. My thought was that the crime that pissed off the other Judgements enough to get Sans tossed ass over teakettle a few links down the Great Chain was that he was secretly hiding a few ascended souls and trying to nurture them into new Judgements so they could have a chance to live.

The others found out, killed all but the one that would eventually become Papyrus, and knocked them both down to Earth as punishment.

holy shit I like the way you think

and yeah stars would perhaps not appreciate competition, esp if sentient life with souls is rare

...Although it now occurs to me that the theme of saving vs. destroying a child alien to yourself would probably fit better as a Toriel-Asgore parallel, damn.

Ooh, what if Toriel's also another being (slightly higher-ranking Judgement or similar concept maybe? I don't know if they have a hierarchy within their own link of the Great Chain or not)

and was secretly acting as Sans' patron in this which is how he got away with it for long enough to raise at least one actual new Judgement, but they managed to avoid her getting found out and dragged down with him when he inevitably was finally caught, which is how they know each other in this AU.

Hmm. I think it actually fits the traitorous theme if she was lower, which is an interesting reversal of the dynamic

I like the idea of monsters being their own species, in their island on the Unterzee

(they buy human souls almost as much as the demons do)

(convinced they can learn the secret to withstanding sunlight)

(Toriel is in exile in London)

Neeeat. : D

Imagine, if you will, being a poor terrified sailor coming across Undyne's warship

I'm torn over whether I like the idea of transporting monsters into the story wholesale, or trying to figure out what kind of Fallen London thing each of them would be...

*zailor whoops

hmm. why not have our cake and eat it too?

Two AUs, maybe?

yusssss

okay so
Muffet, leader of sorrow spiders, y/n?

HORRIFIED AGREEMENT.

Like, yes, and none of us will ever sleep again because of it, probably.

they only require a small donation uhuhuhuhu~

We're just hashing things out for fun, so we can sketch out two versions. I think in version 1, what happened was that the Underground was sort of a... side project of the Bazaar?

Like, it was trying to hedge its bets on the whole seven cities deal, and it managed to work out a loophole by dragging down a city-state of monsters because 'not humans, didn't count '.

The dealers who sold the city were, of course, Asgore (bargaining for Asriel's life) and Toriel (bargaining for Chara's life). As per usual, this deal was technically successful but poorly executed.

ooooh i like that idea

fuck a friend wrote someone hang on

Hence, Flowey and Whoops Sorry Frisk You're Sharing Headspace now.

FUCK i couldn't find it but it was a beautiful piece about Toriel waiting for her child

sometimes they looked different, were taller, shorter, but she could always tell, and they always came to her in the end

Hello, delicious friends — peppermintmusique:
... i did find this on the way tho

Okay, one: FUCK is right, that sounds like some high quality Pain. And two, is it bad that I could tell exactly which game they meant each time, given that I've technically never played either? : D

hehehe no it means you have attention to detail

(I have watched approximately five billion Let's Plays, scoured wikis, and devoured fanfics in vast quantity, but my broke ass still can't afford actual video games.)

(god tho, the similarity between Mr. Eaten and Genocide...)

(hahah i know the feel)

(at least FL is (mostly) free?)

(A RECKONING WILL NOT BE POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.)

(man tho i love the idea of Frisk being the Player Character, only the second person narration is an actual person )

(and given some of the lines in FL which have the exact same humor...)

(Free to play, yeah, but I know myself well enough not to want to risk the frustration of IF I COULD JUST UPGRADE TO THE PAID VERSION. And yes, narra Chara is such a cool concept : D )

"Your investigations bear fruit. Occasionally the fruit is on fire."
""You spit foul recriminations and vicious calumny. Ladies faint dead away and gentlemen stagger under the barrage. Your target runs, weeping, with her hands over her ears. You follow her! Your tirade continues in the street, where hansoms careen hastily off and urchins fall from rooftops."

"It appears that you have showed them all. Furthermore, it seems very unlikely that they will laugh at you again."

this is just.
so Chara

YES, absolutely.

"That didn't happen. You didn't slip and end up dangling from a cornice. Cats didn't mock you for your efforts. A large ginger certainly didn't sit on your head as your feet flailed. Nothing happened at all."

So maybe the Masters' deal fuckup this time around was (for Flowey) binding who Asgore loved (his son) into what Asgore loved (his garden). For Chara, it was doing their best to accomplish Toriel's request that her child would always come back to her, by ensuring that they would leave behind their body and live on through many others, sort of Jack-ish way?

: D I love this idea

the contract that dooms a city is always one of love

this time, familial love

man tho i'm curious as to what would happen if Frisk picked up a Jack-knife

(although maybe the Real Knife acts as something similar for Chara?)

Head fight. : D Dreemurr vs. Ripper, round one, go.

oh man
Frisk wakes up with a killer headache, ba dum tish

Like, I'm thinking they're an unembodied spirit who possesses anyone who lands on their grave, same as Jack can possess anyone who has the knives more or less, but in their case the exact terms are always slightly different because every time their current host dies the location of their grave changes.

holy shit i love that idea

(My guess that Toriel's wording was something like 'I want them to come out of this coffin and come back to me'.)

maybe instead of someone who lands on their grave, dies on their grave

(yeah oh my god yeah. she sure regrets her wording! she sure knows they're in other children)

I like that, although... it occurs to me that (particularly with monster's funeral practices), a grave is a symbol, not necessarily just a location.

(and is kind of. slowwwly and quietly sinking into denial to mentally cope)

(although not as badly as Asgore)

oooh yeah

hmm how would that change things?

So maybe their first new grave was a red ribbon (weave it into your hair, around your fingers, your throat). And the second was a glove (put it on). Write in a notebook, dance in some shoes...

(also I FOUND IT no dogs are allowed on the moon, I'd be curious to hear your take... )

hhhhhh

and then finally, the headstone

a knife and a locket

this means the chain of items gets longer each time

does each one wake Chara up a little more?

So, maybe, to see if we can have our cake and eat it too: you don't have to die with on of the items to get them, as long as it's the newest one, their freshest grave, you can just use it in whatever way is unique to the item. But any of the older ones, you have to be dead or dying, and a newer grave can also only be created through permanent death.

(I'm also thinking that it only works if no one else is hosting them at the time, because unlike Jack who got mass produced they were always meant to be a singular entity.)

So, when the ribbon was the newest one you could just wear it, but once someone died wearing the glove you could only summon them by dying with the ribbon on, and so on.

This poor kid must be so exhausted by now.

ooh i like that idea

so with each possession the number of things that could be used to summon them increases

god yeah they're tired

they want to rest

and it's probs why they just hang out in Frisk's head making snarky commentary instead of actually trying to do things

what would be the point?

honestly Frisk will end up with Toriel (and she can tell, she can always tell)

and they're kind of putting it off this time with look, sidequests

Yes, perfect.

a list of four main statistics and sundry others, presented

They start out trying to guide and help their hosts as best they can, but people keep dying on them and they're just so tired of it all...

they haven't yet reached the point where they'd try to actively sabotage their current host, it'd take a host who was actively corrupting them to push them to that level of malevolence, but the poor kid has got some serious compassion fatigue going on here.

yeah : (

doesn't help i think the host also being a kid is a possession requirement

Ooh, yes, let's.

i wonder if Chara's presence gives Frisk an aid to coming back from the River

one of the options is titled 'Stay Determined!'

I like to think so. Maybe there's a twist where they don't even go there like other people do: Chara's deal-given unlife can extend to their hosts, so they don't truly die until they decide to give up, facing even fewer consequences than usual, but if they ever do decide not to take it then instant permadeath with no appeals.

oooh i like that idea

Adding in the extra Pain Factor that Chara knows that all their hosts decided to leave them.

which makes the fact that chara has been with *six prio

jinx

They all knew how bad it was, but in the end they still broke and left them behind...

Part of Chara doesn't blame them and part of Chara resents them

...It just occurs to me that if Asriel and Chara got brought back in a Bazaar deal, this could plausibly make Alphys a Master of the Bazaar.

Mistress of the Bazaar? Fuck it, doctor is gender neutral.

Doctor of the Bazaar.

ooooh I love that idea

Doctor Amber

(her trade is electricity and electronics)

(and, for some reason. souls)

Yesss. Trades in needles, pills, lightning-strikes, inspiration, and desperation.

for all your mad science needs

she's probs got claws in Correspondence as well

secretly carrying on an affair with noted pirate lady Rubbery Woman!Undyne.

yesssssss

this is blackmail material so obvious as to be almost worthless

Probably also knew Sans back when he was a Judgement and she was a free-roaming whatever kind of space bat thing the Masters are. Like, everybody knows Sans, but very few people know what he was once, let alone had ever met him back then, so this is potentially very useful.

oooh i like that idea

now. hard mode. where would gaster come into it

(Is it bad that I like the juxtaposition there? The passionate lesbian love affair is an open secret that no one really feels like bothering them about, but the entirely platonic longterm friendship is ~secret and scandalous~. : D )

I dunno, dude who got way too into that one color that makes people forget things, which I ironically do not remember the name of?

(oh man i love that twist)

irrigo : D

...No, wait, duh. Just realized, he's clearly a Seeker of the Name, very obvious, should've caught that as soon as you asked, my bad.

holy shit tho he might be responsible for the Nadir in the first place

but also a Seeker : D

So either he went way too far looking for Mr. Eaten or, if we're replacing the Masters with a bunch of Undercast equivalents, was Mr. Eaten's local variant.

(Also, if we are, Muffet clearly has to be one of the other masters. Her trading areas are silk, tea, baked goods, and all things related to Sorrow Spiders. Absolutely no one wants to know how these things are related, and everyone has been trying very hard not to ask.)

(oh my god
she probably also has hands in the trade of Secrets)

brb gotta pick up dinner

I should probably go to bed soon, anyway. Want me to have a few Recurring Dreams about it and pick this up again tomorrow? : D

ok back!

ooooh I like that idea

(Recurring Dreams: Fandom)

night Ecks!

Chara > pokeFrisk + Needles + Sparks aand a tag before I go to bed

The tag plurk becomes a tag plurk once again. It is the cycle of life.

: D the ciiiiircle of pluuuurk

Annnnd it moooves us allll~ (I don't actually remember most of the other lyrics.)

You think I should make a new plurk for chats, so we don't have to keep scrolling back to this one?

Whichever you'd prefer, really.

Might be easier. Hang on.