is just an endless cycle of "oh this au/comic looks cute"

this au/comic: btw chara was an abuser who bullied and isolated asriel and blamed him for everything and was never anything but cruel to him

me: guess ill die

im so old and tired

ssssssssssssssame

hard same

how do you play the pacifist route, which goes to the wildest extremes in the universe to make sure you walk away from the game going "huh i guess there really isn't anyone in the story who's only there to be a villain, even the mean killer flower who seems to actively delight in murdering me"

and then go "time to continue this narrative by having a character who's only there to be a villain"

because people can't read between the got damn lines in this day and age

it isn't canon unless it's spelled out word for word and your fucking hand gets held rather than expecting the viewer to have critical thinking skills

someday i'm going to discover Literally Any Post Pacifist Thing EVER that doesn't have chara's existence in it be an OHHHH NOOOOOOO plot thread

and i'm going to fall to my knees and fuckign weep

please...let us find the promised land............

sometimes I forget that this is a common fandom opinion because the majority of my interaction with the undertale fandom fic-wise is through "follow for more soft chara" feralphoenix

is this the "chara is constantly miscarrying asriel's incest baby" person because uuuhhhhhhh i'm kind of. not into the incest scene

I don't think they've done any miscarriage stuff in this fandom?

or pregnancy actually

and I respect the 'it's incest' angle as well as 'chara and asriel don't consider themselves siblings' angle so

but if it's not your scene, it's not your scene

i'm not here to kinkshame buddy it's justtttt something i stay ten miles away for my own sake

and that's fair!

yeah that's feral

I was just here to say that I often forget that soft chara is not the standard

and tbh I wish I could forget it all the time

like i guess her stuff is "soft chara" but it also comes with "weird focus on periods" and "this incest ship Is Totally Not Incest You Guys"

because wtf

Cool and Great

i'm never going to forgive her for writing the line "I want to be intersex in bed with you."

wh

WH?????????

that's a real and actual thing that she wrote and decided was a good and fair exploration of gender

what the

pack it up everybody we've peaked

this is the sheer epitome of gender representation

shrugs gently

i

wuhhhhh

i am at a loss for a response

honestly i can't blame you

I'm astral projecting

anyway again not kinkshaming what you're into friend its just. this is not my boat

this plurk has become a flaming wasteland

that's the fun and cool thing about the scant handful of post-pacifist Chara Isn't Actually Fucking Satan content

that's totally fair and I respect that

cause you can bank on misgendering or a really not great ship or even better

Chara Wasn't Terrible I Guess But This Canonly Suicidal Kid Still Has To Die For Everyone Else's Happy Ending

snap kick me in the ass i have to finish that fic series for you

love those ~~~redeeming Good Chara~~~ narratives that are "chara is a threat with zero redeeming qualities but Pure And Unproblematic Angels Asriel And Frisk forgive them for being Literal Satan so they Die In A Hauntingly Beautiful Way so Everyone Else Can Be Happy"

love that Remember: If You're Adopted You aren't Really Part of the Family (so porking is totally cool and fine)

I feel like it's the eternal struggle of 'good characterization, interesting plot, not squicky- pick any two'.

pretty much

i used to be a lot less...picky i guess lol but so much of All The Same has worn me down utterly

love that 100% of post-pacifist content, whether ~~sof char~~ or satan char, are still "chara is the one problem keeping us from being happy so they need to vanish they don't deserve to have a future"

really just. super original and compelling narratives

i don't see any other of the canonically suicidal cast being forced into this role of sacrificial lamb for everyones happy endings, Just This One Child Because Fuck Them In Particular, I Guess

stage whisper: its because they don't fit the Good Victim trope

oh of course

Neither does... most of the rest of the cast, now that I think about it. But people don't seem to draw attention to that as much, for some reason?

it's easier to hamfist frisk or asriel into that role i guess

it's pretty much going to be character assassination of a literal and figurative kind no matter how you slice it

remember if you're ever angry or hurt about your abuse then you're just as bad as your abusers and deserve to be fuckign dead, kids

the only victims allowed to recover are the ones who Understand their abusers Did It For A Good Reason and maybe like weep beautifully once but love their abusers ever so much

just look at frisk, who Never Did Neutral Routes and was Forced Against Their Will to No Mercy and is never afraid of the many people who tried to kill them, ever

just look at asriel, who was Super Definitely Abused By Chara because we all know people implied to come from abusive situations are 1000% going to grow up to be abusers too right ha ha (but not asriel tho he's a perfect snowball)

oh right and how could we forget that Asriel And Flowey Are Super Separate People Oo Woo

i mean lbr

fandom: oh good we can pretend that every single bad choice possible in the game was The Bad One and the good choices were The Perfect Kid
fandom: wait shit how do we justify the fact that uwu sad smol cinnamon rol committed genocide
asriel: don't think of that as really me
fandom: HOT DIGGITY SHIT

drags hands. right down face.

anyway i fell deep into my Usual Salt Mine whoops

oh yeah that's right i forget we should definitely always take eight year olds at face value because their opinions are utterly unbiased

i mean. same hat.

we are all

just like. gggghhhhhhh my kingdom for literally anything that doesn't just play the exact same black and white tropes forever

Plot twist: Mt. Ebott used to contain a salt mine, before the Barrier went up.

Therefore, everything about the Underground is salty forever.

if i could write more than a drabble for piss i would do this for you snap

there's a massive opening for a crave that mineral dreemurr joke but i'm going to rise above memeing

snap, skipping on a meme??? POD PERSON.

i have extremely high shitposting standards, they lied

people really want someone to be The Bad One

and even if you have a narrative explaining that that's kind of a bad thing to want or expect they just... really want it though

we have a Bad One already. the most irredeemable character in undertale. the unforgivable stain on all of existence.

jerry

frick

also a lot of fics fall into this trap where somebody needs to be 100% evil because

anyway all I want in life is more fiction that portrays trauma and the anger that accompanies it as not Evil and Forbidden

lol i see this so much

that person will also be 100% responsible for providing any conflict

like some authors and creators will call it...needing a Driving Force for the conflict but like

that's just kind of a testament to how crappy a writer you must be

lmao right

like

feed me the asriel who has to actual confront his emotional numbness and desperation instead of coping by "that wasn't really me so I'm not really like that ever at all"

if the only compelling narrative you can generate is "Well Here's This Bad Person"

if you need a two dimensional Bad Guy to carry your plot it's not that gr8

feed me the frisk who fought back and was frustrated and furious with all these adults expecting them to decide the fate of the world

what kind of a story could you have with no evil people! that's just impossible.

if you're fundamentally incapable of coming up with a story that explores trauma and recovery without painting someone as an unquestionably Bad Influence then you gotta go back to writin class

feed me the sans whose threats and negging are actually portrayed as a sign that his despair and bitter resignation are hurting people

feed me like. any alphys at all

and in an au or something post-canon you're already short the canon conflict so SOMEONE MUST STEP UP

feed me chara and alphys having trashy tastes in anime arguing over which fma was best

feed me chara and alphys having long heart to hearts about feeling no one will love you the way you are and the mistakes you've made and the harm they did mean you will never deserve love or happiness

feed me dinner in general I'm having a hard time deciding what to make tonight

get some food in you bruh

but what food though

the real Heavy Hitting Fandom Questions

unpopular opinion: instant oatmeal is always a good go-to

this is tru

I have chicken

also good......

Whatever you make, put cheese in it.

Unless you are lactose intolerant in some manner, all foods are vastly improved by the addition of cheese.

nah man i'm allll about that lactose

love me some good good dairy

i was gonna do chicken and pierogis but then i remembered that the water at my place is shut off while they replace some pipes

so its chicken and cheese fries because those dont involve boiling

player: literally kills everyone in the game out of conscious decision
chara: punishes the player for doing so
player: what is this sjw bullshit

player: time to make 500 comics about how chara is Mean And Bad

accurate