Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I'm sorry. You may have heard that I didn't make all of my mesh. I have to admit that keeping churning out new content to stay in o many events got on top of me. I have on occasion purchased components for my sets.
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Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I'm sorry if you feel let down by this. I'm sorry to the people who run the events that I have loved being a part of. I don't want you to pity me but I do want you to understand why I made these mistakes.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
As you know this is my livelihood, ny business. You know I buy textures, I buy animations, I don't buy scripts because I have a slave for that. I slipped into buying bits of models, to use, plants that I hate meshing, a couple of other bits and bobs. Then I really messed up and bought some other stuff.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
Obviously I wish I could go back and not do that, you know I've been in this business for years and you know that I can build mesh. I am sorry for getting lazy and being stupid. Cheeky Pea has become like a production line. That's not we're really about. So I'm going to scale back, take my time and get back to how it used to be.
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Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I'm going to get back to what my customers want, what the event organisers deserve and what gives the respect to my fellow creators. I haven't been stealing items or copying people, I've been a bit stupid. Because this means so much to me I have to be whiter than white. I pay a lot of money for raw materials and software.
Saff
7 years ago
It’s not like you did anything illegal. So many people produce content that isn’t their original mesh, as someone who has sat and watched you mesh (for many many hours) and has learned from you, I can say hand on heart your work is incredible and just because you didn’t mesh some plants (?!) shouldn’t take away from the amazing stuff you make
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
But while textures, animations, and scripts are acceptable raw materials, models and mesh aren't because that's what I'm supposed to be bringing to the party. The same way an animator can buy props, or a texture expert can buy mesh. It's not their core business. So I'm sorry to anyone who I've let down.
Chingona Sophia
7 years ago
I have made a lot of mistakes in SL. Too many to count. I think many of us have. You learned from your mistakes and have a plan to fix it. Solid. You promised us @ Uber original mesh going forth. Truth and I believe in you and 2nd chances.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I'm not going to shrivel up in a corner though, I'm going to put more time and dedication into bring you fresh content. I hope you guys look forward to seeing the new stuff.
Alicia ✿
7 years ago
(cozy)
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
Thank you to Sophia and Truth for helping me through this, I've known both of them since the beginning of time and they know that I can and do make original items. I'm sorry to them that my stupidity has reflected badly on them. I'm sorry to my friends and my customers.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I have hundreds of gigabytes of my work going back around ten years or so should anyone need proof that I know what I'm doing. I've even taught other creators how to use Maya. I just done goofed.
Dust Bunny
7 years ago
I'm sorry as well because this is a really horrible thing to do, to your customers especially. I've been shown links to your ENTIRE sets even dating back to early 2017 on 3d model websites and they are not just "components" and it honestly makes me feel so sick. It's the biggest slap in the face to everyone and to me.These are alsobeing used illegally, folks
Dust Bunny
7 years ago
Myself and many creators struggle so badly with keeping up, and have some horrible things going on behind the scenes, but i would never revert to stealing and then making tons of money from it
Raynee
7 years ago
I've been buying your stuff since you had a tiny store, I'm not going to stop now. You didn't do anything illegal, you just got a little tired and overwhelmed and took a couple of shortcuts to keep up. You're human.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
Do you know what "illegal" means? These are licensed works. I'm sorry you struggle.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
lxlNoel: If you want to talk to my IP lawyer I can forward his details. I came here to apologise for buying some stuff, I did not steal anything. That's exactly the sort of nonsense I have had to deal with, and the reason I've had to come out and explain myself.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I thought people would rather hear the humble truth than listen to slander.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
Apple_Fall: I'm happy to talk with you privately if you want to try and sort out the issues you have with me.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
If I recall you also had an issue with me licensing textures as well.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I'm not being a lawyer twat. I have a real business, a real company, so I have a real accountant and a real lawyer. If anyone wants to contact them I will pass that information on. I made a mistake, I apologised, I'm not going into the ins and outs of every personal conversation or relationship I have in public, sorry.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
So my last words for now, I'm sorry to everyone, I'm sorry to other creators who feel that I've been "juicing". I fucked up, I'm sorry. I'm asking for the opportunity to win back trust with my future output.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
One last thing, actually "I'm not being a lawyer twat." meant I'm not being a twat who shouts about lawyers, not calling anyone a twat.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
Apple_Fall: Apple, I really wasn't threatening you. I was being transparent if anyone wants to discuss the ins and out of this with a professional. I'm sorry that you want to try and put the boot in when I'm making an apology. As I said, I would be happy to talk with you privately.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
Considering that half of the mesh outfits availble when mesh first came out were mesh items bought by the 'designer' and textured in their own tastes, I don't see what's wrong with you using bits in your stuff. You paid for it. What's the big deal?
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
chroniclesofaya: I honestly threatened no one. I offered a better avenue for them to have a conversation with an IP lawyer that knows the ins and outs of my business. They tend to deal with IP and not you know, putting the screws on people. I literally didn't make a threat. Some people are insecure when they see lawyer in a sentence for whatever reason.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
For the avoidance of doubt. I have taken legal advice, not because I want to shut anyone up, but because I want to make sure that my fuck up is not a civil matter. I really don't want to conflate making a mistake with breaking a law. Because two completely different things.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
My reaction is that I'm sorry. I'm going to get back to what I do best and I won't make this mistake again.
vespertine says
7 years ago
I’m not that kind of person who would wish bad things to people especially when they make mistakes. But I’m very disappointed with what have you done to your customers. I appear at both sides of spectrum now - not only as a customer but as creator as well. I used to buy your mesh for years ( since 2012 if I can be correct) and honestly
Dust Bunny
7 years ago
3d models: Other - Belmont sectional set Handicraft 3D - TurboSquid 1303175 in case anyone would like to shop for their next release, since a few people in here think that it's okay to do so, maybe you guys can open up a store with models from here as well.
vespertine says
7 years ago
I adored how much you can “ do” so much in so little time. As person / creator who also pays everything with money from Second life business it gives me simple rage. It truly makes me feel you are disrespecting your customers. For myself I know how fucking hard is it to keep up with everything and get good work done and go to sleep with feeling that you are
vespertine says
7 years ago
doing well. I’ve never told you a single bad word but I do hope, Isla that you will learn your lesson now.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
To make a mistake, recognise it, apologise and learn from it is all I can do. If I continue making the mistake then I rightfully won't be in events and my customers might go elsewhere. I'm not going to make that mistake. And I know in the immediate term I will be watched like a hawk but I promise to take my lesson and make ammends
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
I'm not trying to "own" this, I'm putting my hands up and apologising. In the past I would have hidden away or gone on attack and lashed out at people. That was a long time ago. I'm sorry to people I let down, sick to the stomach that I fucked up not because I got caught or whatever people want to imply.
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
So I'm just going to get back to making 100% my own cute shit, if people want it they will buy it. I will be true to my friends, customers, and people I work with. If you have an axe to grind with me talk to me privately.
Jack
7 years ago
I need to correct myself, as I originally commented support wholeheartedly without full knowledge of the situation. It is impossible to know the full facts of the situations - for me to have a concrete opinion on this is I would need to know the source of the purchased components in question, their respective licences, etc, etc, etc. So I am not going to [-]
Jack
7 years ago
[-] broadcast an opinion on the use of the models. But I need to say that a silly part of me is hurt that a store I look up to and admire as a creator myself contravened event rules and (purportedly) lied about it for a time to get away with it. I'm hurt because I am working as hard as I possibly can to try and reach the heights that you and other creators..
Jack
7 years ago
...here have. I realistically know you weren't literally taking up a space on false pretences, both in events and in the public eye, but a slightly selfish and - I'll admit it - immature side of me feels me or other creators could easily deserve the space more. BUT, you have openly apologised and tried to be as open as possible about the situation so I [-]
Cheeky Pea
7 years ago
MarkusSlingshot3: That's what makes what I've done even more stupid. I worked really hard to get into the position I was in and then got stupid and lazy. Now I need to work ten times as hard to prove I should still be in events, if people give me a chance.
Jack
7 years ago
[-] respect that. I just hope that this can be a zeitgeist moment about what is acceptable and what is not.
Chipmunk_Knees
7 years ago
So it was stupid and you’re in a shit spot and I’m sorry but god knows we all fuck up. I love your work and I love you and I know how upset you are right now. Just know - this too shall pass. Move on and do no harm.
Chipmunk_Knees
7 years ago
We have ALL fucked up in one way or another. So this was yours. Now put it behind you and move on.
Blueberry/Mishi
7 years ago
Isla, the royalty free license of Turbosquid specifically says you can not use these items on Second Life.
GyazoPosting this for everyone who thought Royalty Free Licenses included selling on SL.
But that being said, there is nobody on this game who could say they have never made a mistake.
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Blueberry/Mishi
7 years ago
Mistakes should never define how we see a person, how they deal with their mistake is what makes their character. I believe you and I relate when you say you were overwhelmed. I also believe you will do great in the future.
We creators must empower, inspire and encourage each other to do better, not put each other down. Best of luck.
Jack
7 years ago
CheekyPea: I'm happy to hear that. Despite all this drama, you are one of the most talented creators in SL and it would be a shame to see this be your brand's end (and I doubt it will be). I'm sure people will give you the chance, I know I will.
Kota
7 years ago
BlueberryMishi: I wish I could favourite comments because "We creators must empower, inspire and encourage each other to do better, not put each other down." is spot on.
Jack
7 years ago
Also, preach to what BlueberryMishi said. I want that ending quote on a poster.
Aria
7 years ago
Well said blueberrymishi
Jack
7 years ago
Yeah, if my comment wasn't clear enough ^ that is my main issue. It's my main issue because I'm not too read up on the TOS concerning whether it's chill to sell stuff bought outside of Turbosquid.
✿Kirsten✿
7 years ago
BlueberryMishi: That comment was so amazing and kind. Thank you for being you!
Annie
7 years ago
Hi Miranda, thanks, that's why I was specifically apologising to event owners earlier. I think people may be confusing a couple of different issues. Mishi thanks for your kind and wise words. I'm going to get some sleep because obviously I have way more work to do now joke even though it's not the best time
Chipmunk_Knees
7 years ago
Mishi - class act as always. Thank you for your well tempered words.
Jaxon
7 years ago
anywhereexcepthere: STFU with your fake ass apology. face it you got caught. You have done this before. YOU don't give a fuck! IF you did you would have stopped but instead you continue doing the same shit
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
I'm with Gidge.
Rose
7 years ago
RoslinPetion she is. Unlike that Jaxon person.
Tigist
7 years ago
I’m late to the party and honestly don’t know what the issues are, however it takes a pretty strong person to apologize regardless if it was warranted (which I kinda don’t think it I was). Thank you for thinking of your customers and fans.
Dust Bunny
7 years ago
I know there are a lot of people who don't know the whole extent of the situation who will continue to support this behavior, but most of her store (even dating back to 2014 now) has been using ripped models without any permission. This wasn't a simple mistake that can be forgiven, there is money that will never be returned, and meanwhile these items
Dust Bunny
7 years ago
are still being sold in her store, and a majority of her customers have no idea that what they purchased from her was not her own content. You can't simply "move on" meanwhile still continue to sell / lie to your customers. Also the website was contacted to be sure the models were not allowed for SL use. https://images.plurk.com/16bdYtmvexLXwaB0dYHpm0.jpg
Saff
7 years ago
lxlNoel it’s her daughter’s birthday today so I think you can excuse her not logging on and taking down the aforementioned items (before anyone says she’s been online today that was me to deal with tickets and I have no idea which of her meshes this pertains to) I’m more than sure she will do the right thing however
Saff
7 years ago
Apple_Fall: no but it was 11.42pm when this plurk was made
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
Apple_Fall: Have you never made a mistake in your own life? Step back a little, please.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
The witch hunt is getting old to me since she did apologize. She can't go back in time and change things. She can ONLY move ahead. Let's all do that.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
This is a witch hunt. It's done. It can't be undone. Make your peace and move on.
Dust Bunny
7 years ago
DjinniGenie: I really don't think you know the full extent of the situation and severe downplaying of what is going on. There is a huge difference between making one, two, maybe even three mistakes, but this no where near compares. This also involves a LOT of money over the years (from isla herself), and hopefully something LL takes action with.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
You do realize that you are talking about someone's income and not their hobby? Just asking.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
This shitfest is a good reminder for why I only login SL once a year or so.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
I want to know what else y'all want her to do. Strip naked RL, run through the streets, flagellating herself until her back bleeds? SHE APOLOGIZED. Time travel isn't a thing, SO SHE CAN'T GO BACK AND HAVE A DO OVER. If she's apologized, is going to do better, and is trying to do the right thing, what ELSE does she have to do to satisfy you all?
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
So... shall I schedule the flagellation for next Wednesday?
Rose
7 years ago
vespertine says
7 years ago
DjinniGenie: so she can't go back and have a do over"..woah if this happened once, three times, its okay, it happens ! Everyone of us has ever done mistakes we regret. But obviously she's been doing it for years and she was aware of that and this is simply sad. Honestly I can't find legitimate excuse for that. If you don't understand this then I don't know.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
So... why are you still here in her apology Plurk? You are disinclined to believe her, don't want to forgive, so you are here rioting up the Plurk where she was trying to make amends? That's what I don't understand. I am really glad the rest of the world doesn't judge me in the way that some of y'all seem to judge others. Can we try to be constructive?
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
Maybe I'm not making sense to some of you, but I lose a very dear and important part of my family this year and that's changed my focus about what's important in the world. The world needs more forgiveness.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
I'm not asking you to flip a switch and do an instant forgive, if you've got issues about this thing. I'm just asking you to put down the torches and pitchforks. We all make mistakes in the past. We all change. We all grow. Let's do that now.
vespertine says
7 years ago
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
Today is her daughter's birthday. They went out to celebrate that. THey celebrated life. Is it too much to ask that she be able to do that?
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
I'm so very sorry that things aren't going according to your schedule. Does the rest of the world do that for you?
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
It's not every day that your daughter turns 12. Let her have this time to celebrate that, please?
vespertine says
7 years ago
Why do you even drag her daughter in this topic
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
mrsknelstrom: Because this is LIFE. Life isn't black and white. It's all sorts of grey. And we have to figure out how to swim in it. People handle stress very differently. Me? I'd be in the bed crying and trying to think through what got me to that point. Others, need time to take a breath. Others don't get a chance to do that because LIFE doesn't stop.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
I'm just asking everyone to calm down and ... I dunno. Let's revisit things on Monday?
vespertine says
7 years ago
DjinniGenie: yes dear, I' ve never had problems in my life :-)
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
mrsknelstrom: Not saying that you haven't had any problems. I probably should have shut up a while ago, but ... I just want people to get along. Or try.
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
Uriah
7 years ago
☠DjinniGenie
7 years ago
notquitepink: Yes, you are right. I have not been as understanding as I should be, but my temper got the best of me. I'm sorry. As an aside, I'm just a concerned friend and not a spokesperson for the store. So, my apologies for the unnecessary snark in with the rest of my heartfelt comments. I hope that my apology will be accepted.
Kiddo
7 years ago
90% of SL creators can relate to the feeling of being overwhelmed by deadlines and have struggled to keep up with events.
However there were other options...
Kiddo
7 years ago
Step down from one or two events to be able to focus on the others.
Look for a business partner to split work wth
Sign up every other month to have more time to prepare items
Make simpler stuff to avoid quitting an event
Kiddo
7 years ago
It is possible to keep up with all the commitments without taking questionable choices. With this being said I don’t want to pitchfork/witch hunt/shame anyone, but I sit with Dust Bunny, Vespertine and Apple Fall on this. They have every right to feel outraged.
kesseret says
7 years ago
didn't someone here use some licensed disney stuff
kesseret says
7 years ago
who was it? Someone in this plurk, did they apologize and get ripped a new asshole?
kesseret says
7 years ago
someone remind me, please.
vespertine says
7 years ago
kesseret: LOL. I've been waiting till someone like you will come and tell me that. Yes, it was a mistake and until today i do not understand how could I do that. As I remember it was taken down in a few hours when I've been sleeping. I wrote my excuse on Flickr it was simply mistake I was not aware about when I created these items.
kesseret says
7 years ago
so you apologized, correct. and moved on and never mad ethe same mistake, correct?
kesseret says
7 years ago
im going to assume yes.
vespertine says
7 years ago
kesseret: Also go on! Compare that one fail I'm not proud of until today with something clearly like.. different that is happening here.
kesseret says
7 years ago
don't you think others afford the same treatment? just to let them actually make up for their mistake
vespertine says
7 years ago
Ive never made the same mistake, correct. Absolutely correct.
vespertine says
7 years ago
read what I just said.
kesseret says
7 years ago
anyway, just asking
kesseret says
7 years ago
i dont know wha tyou did, someone mentioned someone in this plurk did that and since I got balls they asked me to say it, I don't give a goddamn fuck about any of this because I'm not in second life anymore.
kesseret says
7 years ago
i just think people deserve to stop being whipped over and over and over.
kesseret says
7 years ago
i wont deny that. I can read, she lied, multiple times.
kesseret says
7 years ago
i'm just saying, repeatedly making someone feel bad sounds like a vendetta it's acceptable if you say this is sorta sweet karma for some past issues you have with her (I can read between the lines above, I am not stupid. I pick up a lot that others put down). I'll then accept that. I just think in a normal adult interactions
vespertine says
7 years ago
Kess, maybe try to imagine this situation at you rl work. You would not like that right? I believe we all are on the same boat as creators. I don't need to paste here content of motivational books to say I believe none should be priviledged above others. I hope you understand what I mean.
kesseret says
7 years ago
people do not continue to make someone else feel bad over and over and over, unless they are in prison.
kesseret says
7 years ago
I get lied to at work all the time. I dont talk to them anymore and I don't associate with them anymore. I can't continue to send nasty emails or talk shit about them.
kesseret says
7 years ago
but, like, anyway, carry on.
Saff
7 years ago
“Then I really messed up and bought some other stuff” <pretty sure that’s not downplaying
Jack
7 years ago
Saffpots: What I believe they mean is "on occasion purchased components" plays down severely, maybe not taking into account that continuation you quoted there
Jack
7 years ago
Like that components bit clearly means how she started but she eventually moved onto nearly all sets being from turbosquid. "Then I really messed up and bought some other stuff" is probably concerning that
Jack
7 years ago
^ I don't mean "all of her sets" I mean "nearly the whole of individual sets" just to be clear :-)
kesseret
7 years ago
you all mistake me for someone who gives a shit.
kesseret
7 years ago
i know the history. I'm friends with pepperidge farms.
Chipmunk_Knees
7 years ago
I’m crying
Dust Bunny
7 years ago
babycorns: This. Thank you!
Salt
7 years ago
People do make mistakes. But people also have all the right to be upset and outraged about it. Eventually they will move on. But 4 years of lies will take a bit longer than a few days to be able to move on
CheatersNliars
7 years ago
You sell your items so much more than anyone else on SL as if they are “special” and you are paying $6 for them? YOU SUCK and I am so glad you FINALLY got caught out.
CheatersNliars
7 years ago
kesseret you are only not in SL anymore because you got BANNED.. I see you flogging the same people over on your page so shush this doesn’t include you. Run along now
vespertine says
7 years ago
CheatersNliars: oh yeah you know thirst is real :-D
kesseret
7 years ago
CheatersNliars: I'm not banned. try again
kesseret
7 years ago
also nice brand new account just to walk in here. all I have to say is I don't fuck around in an anonymous and I say shit on my real name. I'm not a coward.
kesseret
7 years ago
I have more respect for the folks in here saying shit on their real name than I do in that anon. And I get their anger at least. I don't get anger on the 3rd day but hey they feel how they feel. it's legitimate. but your cowardly ass is not. move along, yourself.
kesseret
7 years ago
cheatersnliars you come in here all anon you look like the vulture grabbing the last of the carcass. the rest of these folks talk legit beef. But here you are picking at the last rotten meat. stay classy.
CheatersNliars
7 years ago
kesseret you sure seem bothered by my presence, and the fact I have a new account, got something you wish to share love? Go for it, we are all listening 👂
CheatersNliars
7 years ago
vespertine oh indeed! 😂
kesseret
7 years ago
so clear you can't read. I said these folks have a legitimate beef. be it as a consumer or a creator. the problem is you act like you have facts but you obviously can't distinguish Lourdes from me. So the mere fact that you come in here with false facts makes me think you are not intelligent. writing you off.
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