I might end up just repeating myself a lot but the other plurk was like 700+ comments long and all the thought stuff was at the bottom of 600 reaction comments during gameplay lol.
Anyway I put Don't Think Twice on earlier and my entire chest seized up so you know THAT'S HOW I'M DOING how y'all?
But let me just start by saying that I super enjoyed KH3 and probably loved it but I am absolutely still an emotional wreck and of course there are some things I'm not too keen on.
Not how it ended so much, just how things were handled getting there.
Okay MOSTLY I'm pissed what they did with destiny trio ahaha. They deserved so much better BUT ALSO...it's not the end of their story, I guess, right? So maybe all the other groups needed that closure.
Though speaking of the other trios, A+++++++++ on all their reunion scenes.
But sea salt trio wins the fucking DAY, MONTH, YEAR.
They were so aklsdjfhakslj perfect, I could not have asked for more.
AND THEN THEY JUST GOT BETTER??
AND THE TWILIGHT TOWN KIDS.
AND IT WAS ALL BEAUTIFUL.
I just wish destiny trio had gotten their moment together.
Instead of 2/3 of them sitting on their tree and Kairi and Riku having fuck all displays of friendship.
At least we'll always have Sora and Riku's gay keyblade combo move so there's that. <3333
But man did I want a better goodbye for them. OR NO GOODBYE AT ALL? RIKU SHOULD'VE GONE WITH SORA TO SAVE KAIRI but whatever whatever, that's Sora's thing, it's fine.
Kairi got the biggest shit end of the stick, though.
If I was a fan of her I'd be pissed but they've never given me a reason to be so
Mostly what makes me angry about her writing is that it affects the group as a whole and again that just leads back to being annoyed by how destiny trio was handled compared to everyone else but it's fine. IT'S FINE. I wish Kairi would get to do literally anything cool but alas.
I'm so sad over that ending with Sora, though. Not in a bad way. But like I've watched that video like twenty times now and it is actually PHYSICALLY painful to watch him fade away even though you immediately know there's more coming because of the secret ending.
Thank god for that honestly because I was wrecked enough as is.
So here's my thing, though.
That I'm still trying to puzzle out.
Do the others see him??? At the end?
The way everyone is running around partying (BEST SCENE BTW MORE ON THAT IN A BIT) it leads me to believe they're not CONCERNED, right? Riku said to believe in him and Sora said he'd be back and I guess he DID come back.
Donald points Sora and Kairi out -- I'm convinced because they're doing their forced romance thing and Donald being Donald was probably ready to tease the shit out of him but Mickey stops him, I think.
So did they not know Sora was going to disappear??
Or are they actually just looking at Kairi being sad by herself?
The way it leaves you on Riku's face makes me think they do see Sora.
And so what, is the next scene just IMMEDIATE panic?? And everyone being like OH FUCK.
And then the secret ending...
My hot take is something like this--
"A Chirithy is bound to its chosen Keyblade wielder; in the event that their Keyblade wielder succumbs to the darkness or vanishes, so does the Chirithy."
Chirithy are Dream Eaters.
Riku is Sora's Dream Eater.
He's obviously an anomaly so I know it doesn't work the same way but did he bind himself to Sora somehow doing all that stuff to protect / save him in 3D?
And when Sora vanishes at the end of KH3, does that mean Riku vanishes, too?
Is that why it ends on him watching the other two?
And do both of them then wake up in Shibuya??
If they actually tie in TWEWY more.
Sora said he'd see Neku & Co. in Shibuya.
Also wow the Secret Reports were pretty damn important, huh?
KHUX obviously plays a bigger role than I was ready for, too.
The Xigbar stuff is fascinating.
And the additional Lea/Isa/HER backstory was super interesting, too.
Of course they didn't tell us what was in the fucking box still lmao.
But how happy did that beach party make me, though, ahhhhhh.
I super love Riku running around with Roxas (and Terra).
the keyblades from the mobile game were pretty epic
And Lea playing frisbee with Ven also just made me smile. He gets to have both of his blondes.
I don't really play KHUX but I'm going to have to at least start following the plot more because CLEARLY it's important.
watching the usernames scroll it was like...no that's actually players from the game. how neat
"As expected, you are strong, Kairi."
Why do we change these things wtf is wrong with the translation / localization team.
I really hope we don't have to wait years for any kind of news ahahaha orz.
Just let me know what kind of game is coming next.
Probably being the girl Lea and Isa befriended.
Xigbar takes her away -- or rescues her maybe?
The fact that Isa got this big redemption arc and is actually in the ending is probably a big sign that he and Lea aren't done with their story either.
Like it's a little tiny bit annoying that yeah, we didn't wrap everything up here, there's just more questions now, but it's also sort of genius that they tied this all back to the lost masters and all that shit.
Xigbar / Luxu has his whole thing now, let's not forget that Ventus is also in KHUX, not to mention Marluxia and Larxene who both had big (ish) parts in KH3.
Demyx... With the keyblade potential thing.
(how fucking great was Demyx aklsdjfhs)
I haven't actually watched or read other theories yet. I spent a lot of yesterday evening staring blankly at things and crying and being stupidly emotional over this entire series lolol.
I need to dive into what others are saying.
And also...play more KH3 so I can unlock things.
But seeing Sora all happy hurts.
Riku is so goddamn pretty in the secret movie.
But I like Sora better in the KH3 graphics.
lol okay but Mickey really had the audacity to say "It's finally over" and everyone's just like YEP 8Db until Sora's all uhhhhhh no?
"My whole journey began the day I lost her" I mean I guess that's one way to look at it...? Like yes, she did indeed disappear the day your journey began but that is HARDLY the cause of your adventures...
He definitely knows he can go rescue Sora if shit goes down.
Just like Sora knows he can go rescue Kairi.
Roxas and Axel look so good sitting together.
THANK GOD AXEL GOT NEW CLOTHES FINALLY.
But I love the build up of this scene and how everyone joins them.
Sora and Riku are always my faves but damn these guys are so good.
I guess this shadow coming over them is the gummi ship? Maybe?
Riku's like "get in losers, we're going beach partying."
Or maybe it's just a cloud lmao whatever.
Knowing that the KH2 novel that I still have to read has SO MUCH of Riku/Namine/Axel being a thing makes it that much better that Riku went to get her.
Roxas finally got to go to the beach.
I don't know why that thought is JUST NOW hitting me but

wow.
I just REALLY love him running around with Riku.
I feel like he has this weird relationship with him where he's used to Sora having best friend thoughts about him constantly so he feels similar but he's super grumpy about it.
Okay see, and Donald is literally running down the beach pointing out Sora and Kairi.
And everyone just turns to watch hahahaha why.
It's Riku stepping forward like that that gets me.
I just don't know if they have an idea what's going to happen or if he's just torturing himself watching this moment between the other two.
Augh I really want the other side of that scene haha. I need to know what everyone else sees and what their reactions are.
But hey I made it through without crying THAT'S A FIRST.
When Sora is flashing through the "acts of true love" moments in the game and you get the Tangled one of course but also Frozen?? Which the whole fucking point of that movie was to NOT be about romance but instead the love between sisters????
Did they just realize they didn't pick many romantic type Disney movies in this game and fall back on that or what.
I want to say it's significant but it's probably not lol.
Here's me talking ships now, I was going to try not to but OH WELL.
The Frozen world was pretty great with the Riku parallels, too.
But fine, ships, the whole "I just want to be a part of your life no matter what" comment is distinctly not romantic.
Obviously it can be read that way.
But wouldn't you just go with "I want to be with you" or "I want to be by your side" or something similar?
Be a part of your life is BFF talk.
I should find out what she says in Japanese.
Sora and Kairi may have shared a paopu fruit but Sora and Riku somehow have this combined keyblade thing that NO ONE ELSE HAS OR CAN DO OR MENTIONS EVER that, only when their two separate keys merge, also has a paopu fruit keychain on it.
What actually is the explanation behind that entire thing lmao.
got yes. they made things so damn good for sea salt trio by adding that +4. akusai and their adopted teens
(slowly making my way through this)
Enjoy me rehashing all the shit I already said by yelling at myself, haha.
Sea salt gang is da bomb diggity.
and yeah, I am still a bit sore about the destiny trio, but like you, I'm hoping that the lack of a good closure/ending for them is because we will get it in the future.
(and the gay keyblade combo move was so good.)
I feel calmer about it today thinking that? Like their story just straight up isn't done and maybe at least some of the others are.
Lea and Isa, though, they're not.
This entire thread is something to keep an eye on.
yeah, idk if you've looked at my theory plurk, but I think you'll find it interesting. XD
(the older one, not the one from today where I'm hashing out the whys/what does it mean with the eyes/ears/hair changes in org members.)
I was gonna say, I did read that one today but I already forgot who had pointy ears and yellow eyes and who only had one and not the other lol or none of that at all. I'll have to reread the other one!
I skimmed through them yesterday but I was so mentally just AKSLJDHKAJSD about everything.
it's the Demyx theory. XD
Oh oh! That he might be the MoM?
I couldn't remember if you replied to it or not
And I've seen other people say similar.
but I've been talking with others about it since, and it's seeming more plausible than I initially thought? I mean, it's still a long shot, BUT. maybe not as crackpot as I thought.
I feel like he probably isn't because I don't know how or why he would forget everything.
It'd be super interesting if he was.
well, we don't know if he actually forgot anything though. but when Vexen talks to him it's Xigbar's involvement that leads him to agree to the delivery?
Actually I totally forgot there was whispering going on there.
I meant to rewatch all the Demyx scenes but I haven't gotten to it yet.
like if Luxu can act like he's Xigbar/Braig, and go about not mentioning any of the Luxu stuff until that epilogue, it's entirely possible that Demyx is acting too?
I'm going back to watch that part lol.
but that's more on the speculation side than anything that actually points at plausibility.
nɑnɑmin
6 years ago @Edit 6 years ago
(that last part, I mean.)
but in that scene with Vexen he moves a lot like the MoM did in back cover.
(rewatching that one bit of back cover in the khux summary is what sparked my theory in the first place.)
I figured that was half the reason anyone came up with that theory.
I remember thinking it during Back Cover.
but only time will tell.
Because at that point Demyx was one of the ones we just hadn't heard anything about in ACTUAL YEARS so it was like.....ummm.....??
How do we know Vexen mentions Xigbar?
I can't stop thinking of this during any Ienzo scene now:
"she just called the paopu a good luck charm so they wouldn't have to be separated"
I still want to see the translation.
Vexen mentions Xigbar in one of the secret reports, about him being the one to pull him back into the fold for atonement?
though with the wording I can't tell if that was part of Xigbar's offer or if Xigbar's offer just lined up with Vexen's goals of atonement.
but if it's the former, then it definitely points to Xigbar being the key to Demyx hopping on board with the delivery?
also omg dying at that Ienzo and Aeleus art
And yeah I assumed Vexen took the offer to become a Nobody again in order to be able to work on the replicas.
So he knew going in he was going to betray them because he wanted to atone.
And not so much that Xigbar made the offer in terms of like "join us so you can do this other thing secretly".
Though I mean, Xigbar very well could've done that on purpose and just not said anything.
yeah. it was just the wording in that secret report that muddied the interpretation, I think.
But if for arguemnt's sake it WASN'T Xigbar that Vexen mentioned to Demyx, I wonder who else it could've been?
I think my first thought was Saix, but.
"I didn't even know you in the old life." Did Demyx know anyone in the old life??
He really is the one weird standout.
"Though younger than me, he'd risen to become Xemnas's right hand. I accepted his terms and became a Nobody once more -- easier to gain access to the old Replica Program that way."
Isn't that Young Xehanort though?
like iirc that was one of his main interactions in Days?
oh hmm. I could have sworn he specifically named Xigbar in the secret report?
Oof if it wasn't in the 358/2 movie then I definitely don't remember it.
And if it was then I forgot lol.
But no it doesn't mention Xigbar specifically...
Also just so we're on the same page I was assuming "old life" meant when they were people, not the old Organization.
Though I guess it could be either.
Luxord is the other weird one.
okay, so I went on Demyx's wiki and yeah, Xigbar is basically the one org member he has the most interactions with.
a lot of his missions are handed down to him through Xigbar (he went to Olympus in KH2 at Xigbar's behest, among other things.) and in Days he and Xigbar made fun of Xion together.
Well yeah, when they're in the Organization. I thought Demyx was talking about when they were human but I totally could've misinterpreted that.
The "though younger than me" line is throwing me, but I guess Xigbar could be younger than Vexen lol. Just not like noticeably so, so why specifically point that out?
no. I just meant that there is a connection between them, even if it's not explicit in KH3.
also tbh, I wasn't the one who made the connection to Xigbar in the scene with Vexen in the first place, it was a friend of mine. so I'm just taking guesses as to how they reached that conclusion since I rewatched and can't quite figure out where they got the idea from? XD
but I didn't think to double check that until you questioned it.
I just figured I missed something lmao. XD
But now I'm really curious who Vexen might've been talking about.
Whether it's Xigbar or not.
but yeah, from the wiki and what I remember, it does seem like Xigbar was the one Demyx was closest to? so I can def see him respecting shit if it was Xigbar he was talking about.
I was curious at the time and just assumed it would be addressed and then forgot about it until now lol.
if it wasn't Xigbar, then maybe Ansem the Wise, since he's part two of the delivery? but Demyx didn't know Ansem the Wise so...
like not personally, I mean. since he joined the org after he was out of the picture.
Oh. Or back to it being Saix.
Who was definitely younger than Vexen.
oh you meant in the secret report
And also preeeetty much up there being one of Xemnas' closest peeps.
He might've drawn Vexen back and could also be the one Vexen mentions to Demyx.
yeah, it could be Saïx in the secret report. it's a bit harder to say with the Vexen scene though
Because that would be pretty surprising.
As Saix definitely disliked the replicas.
AND Saïx would have reason to want a replica body delivered to Ienzo for the express purpose of bringing back Roxas
And bringing them back would mean bringing back Xiona nd Roxas who Axel was friends with and Saix was jealous of.
which would be atonement for his jealous bullshit. XD
That would be hugely surprising, like even if Demyx doesn't know ALL the details he could probably still figure out that Saix was NOT a fan of those guys in Days.
It also adds to Isa's redemption arc.
yeah. Saïx made no secret of it
nɑnɑmin
6 years ago @Edit 6 years ago
he was pretty vocal about not liking them (replicas)
I like this, I'm pretty sure it's Saix.
It just slotted into place remembering that Saix was a kid in BBS.
he was indeed. like 15-17? I don't think we've ever gotten an age for him
but he did seem to be older than Ventus, so probably closer to 17...
I just link him to Sora's KH2 age for no reason lol.
Saix you sneaky bitch akshdfs.
god. I really do hope it was him. it would make shit so interesting.
Honestly they've got plans for Isa and Lea, why add all this stuff suddenly and build up their backstory so much after they've been floating around for so long.
God, their scene on the clock tower is so good.
He looks legitimately happy to also be friends with Roxas and Xion now.
I like to imagine he and Roxas give each other the stink-eye sometimes, though.
Haha yeah I can imagine that. Isa/Saïx is my most vocal and active character right now of all the fandoms I play from...
I had an Axel account on LJ that never got used.
But Riku was who I played for a long time.
memorize_this lol journal is still there.
Well if you ever want to do some PSLs with them let me know?
I may also be itching to try out Sora...
Sure! I'm so super rusty on RP but akjshds oh really Sora huh?
Yeah. I’m also getting ready to try my hand at Riku and Roxas because I’m crazy, I guess. LOL
That was in my pirate game lol which Sora could've definitely made use of some new PotC icons like damn.
Haha yeah those would have been so good for it.
So, a concept -- because like I said, I think maybe we're mostly done with some of these characters. Not that we'll never see them again, but Roxas, Xion...their goals have been met.
Roxas is probably perfectly cool with hanging out with the Twilight Town gang, though obviously he'd still want to travel around with Lea, too, but.
Ventus, on the other hand, has too much ~mysterious past~ going on for his story to be over.
And he's currently in KHUX.
AND if mystery girl is Skuld, then Ven ALSO knows her.
So maybe a "new" trio in a future game would be Lea/Isa/Ven.
Also Roxas and Xion are kind of accidental keyblade wielders so. Who knows if they'll continue with it.
Not sure about Aqua and Terra, expect that maybe as masters they'll take on new students.
I wonder if Namine will stay on Destiny Islands.
I think we'll definitely see everyone again, I'm just not sure how big a part they'll play.
Unrelated to anything but Riku wanting to reach out to Sora in that one scene and his hand twitching toward him but then NOT TOUCHING HIM physically hurt me.
oh man. I would be so down for Lea/Isa/Ven trio. even if Isa doesn't get a keyblade, he can still be a badass with his claymore skills.
(but then again, I'm biased and down for anything involving my boys.)
Yeah he doesn't need a keyblade! Not like Donald or Goofy had one.
I'm so down for that game.
queerty: Also this is specifically for you:
Though an interesting read for anyone. XD
AHHH I LOVE THIS. mostly because it lines up pretty well with how I applied it to RPing some post-game stuff.
especially: Saix/Isa called Lea/Axel a "crybaby" canonically :^), and the marks under his eyes were referred to as (protective/luck) charms of inverted tears, which means it functions much like a bit of magic to kids. Apparently this is something Isa had taught Lea......because Lea was a crybaby.
This line is also what got me:
"I sacrificed everything to try and track her down."
> "I even went as far as siding with them, giving everything in my search."
As far as siding with them.
Like he knew they were up to shit but did it anyway for their friend.
yeah. it's pretty obvious in the secret reports that are his that this is the case.
this girl is being kept in a cage. we must free her. she's gone. we must find her. by joining them so that we can snoop around better.
Me plotting out the future of KH for everyone:
The first world they go to probably.

excuse he is not going to be the llama
he is going to be the llama
I'm sorry, Isa, you're the llama sacrifice.
I've been waiting for this lmao:
I think the 104 gives it away anyway but it's a good point that when Sora looks at his hand in the secret movie, it's very pointedly his left hand. Because the game timer would be on his right.
for some reason (probably not having played TWEWY since the year it came out) I thought it was the left hand that had the timer, not the right. XD
Nooope, it's the right. XD
But I remember very few of the details from that game. My brother said I can borrow his Switch if I buy the Final Remix version so I think I'm gonna.
if there were more Switch games that I wanted to play, I'd look into getting one. but that's pretty much the only one I want to play and I've already got the DS version.
Yeah exactly. I just don't need another gaming system and I already played BotW on Wii U. Not big on Smash, etc.
You know what? The timer WAS on his left hand in 3D. But it's on the right in TWEWY.
So like. Who the fuck knows lmao.
okay. I'm glad I wasn't completely misremembering it.
I could make a new plurk but I'm not.

I was sitting here like "what, this is such an old plurk"
...I lied never mind lmfao. /NEW PLURK
YEAH I WAS. Gonna post a thing and then. Oops.