PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
[X-Men] Now, this is a story all about how
The script got flipped, turned upside-down,
And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there,
I'll tell you how the editors change the writer's stories like they just don't care
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PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Like
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6 years ago
This has become a HUGE bugaboo for me
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Seeing the original plans that writers had for X-Men that just got fucked by editorial
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PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
I know this is a problem in general for books from The Big Two, but X-Men seems notorious about it (likely because of their cash cow status for so many years)
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
For instance
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6 years ago
Madelyne Pryor
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6 years ago
Her entire story, and subsequently Cyclops' character development, AND subsequently Claremont's entire goal with X-Men, got thrown to the wolves because editorial wanted Jean Grey's death undone and for the original team to reunite for their 25th Anniversary
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Which means the Inferno event, in its current form, ONLY exists because editorial made the writers fuck up Madelyne
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Like, the whole plan was
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6 years ago
Jean dies after Dark Phoenix, Scott ends up meeting and falling in love with Madelyne, settles down, gets married, has child(ren), retires from active X-Men duty
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
The goal being that, yes, characters will age up, find new goals, and possibly even leave the team entirely. Claremont wanted it to be a thing where, if you checked in on the X-Men in ten years, who would still be there? Who would have moved on? Would you even recognize the team?
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
And. That. Would. Be. FANTASTIC.
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
But no, editorial wanted Jean resurrected and the team reunited, which meant that Scott ABANDONED HIS WIFE AND SON because his ex turned out to be not all dead.
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Which.... yeah, that's a great trait to have in a hero.
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
And then poor Maddie went down a depressive spiral, got attacked by villains, got her child stolen, got to see her husband hooking up with this not-dead woman that looked exactly like her, and... they decided the best way to wrap things up was to have her find out she was a Jean clone created by Mr. Sinister. And then she went crazy and summoned demons.
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
And tried to sacrifice her infant son
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6 years ago
And also got her mack on with Havok, because reasons.
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6 years ago
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PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Basically, the X-Men are ripe for fix-it fic ideas, because MOST OF THEM ARE ALREADY OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE BECAUSE THE WRITERS ARE OPEN ABOUT HOW EDITORIAL CONTROLS THE FRANCHISE
FightingSpirit
6 years ago
...damn that explains so much about how convoluted Marvel gets
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Yeah
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Mark Waid said once, in regards to writing X-Men specifically, that it was less like trying to steer an elephant, and more like being tied to the elephant and hoping it goes where you planned.
Pikaboo
6 years ago
Dawn of X has been pretty damn wild. Have you been following at all?
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
I'm actively refusing, to be perfectly honest. Everything I've seen from the outside is not compelling me. Like, I get that Hickman did some great stuff with Avengers, and he's a big X-Men fan, but it really looks... regressive in a lot of ways.
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
And very nostalgia-fueled, which I'm kinda tired of with X-Men
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6 years ago
(as a side note, they have the book Marauders, about essentially pirate X-Men... AND THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE KURT ON THAT TEAM?!)
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Like, the last books I read were a bunch of the Age of X-Man titles, and those were more for the writers
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
NGL I absolutely stan Leah Williams
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
I will say that there's some interesting ideas in there. I like the twist they gave to Goldballs' powers, and I'm kinda into the implied Scott/Jean/Logan thruple
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
But things like the Moira retcon, which is one of the major plot cruxes, rubs me the wrong way
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
(Oh, and the ban/implied murdering of clairvoyants, which... way to fuck over Blindfold and Destiny, jeez. Like they weren't boned by continuity enough)
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
I did like the writing I saw in a few panels from New Mutants, though
Pikaboo
6 years ago
I mean Destiny literally burned Moira to death in one of her lives, so it’s not out of character for her to be boning the precogs, but yeah that was my exact same response to the Marauders lineup. Especially given all he and Kitty have been through together.
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Well, see, that just ties into my main problem with the retcon
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
Moira being a mutant
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
it just
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6 years ago
it's like, let's take one of the longest-standing human allies of the X-Men, and make her only be relevant because she was actually a mutant
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
It's missing one of the whole points of her character
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
I mean, keep in mind, she was working so hard on finding a cure for the Legacy Virus, that she ended up becoming the first baseline human to contract it
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
And that was important! It had weight to it!
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
But no. No, we'll just say she was ACTUALLY A DOOMBOTMUTANT ALL ALONG
PLUS ULTRA
6 years ago
guh
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