ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
wednesday comics | in which i'm very confused about falcon and winter soldier
latest #65
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
it isn't awful, there's a lot of cat content but, like
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/234KAbhE64S4Xlaalu5H5e.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
when did this happen??
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Megan
5 years ago
I feel like they're trying to force movie stuff into 616
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
bucky was tried, pled guilty to all his winter soldier brainwash crimes, was sentenced to time served, many moons ago
Megan
5 years ago
(or stuff that isn't even movie stuff i d k)
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
now: he did screw up an extradition agreement w/russia when he broke out of their weird siberian prison for obscure communist villains
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
and he only got out of that by faking his death, so
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
maybe something like this did happen in thunderbolts because i stopped reading thunderbolts because it was not good
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
but I did read the last Winter Soldier volume, Captain America, Tales of Suspense, Invaders, and Strikeforce and this is not a thing that comes up so it's pretty whiplashy
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
(granted, the last Winter Soldier volume had him like, a popular citizen beloved by townsfolk in suburban Indiana, which also was whiplashy, given his previous direction was "in space")
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
but it's weird they carried over a lot of the trappings of that series but not the whole point of it, like
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/5g4FXjCkcpQpOd0kdvEFXS.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
the entirety of that series was "bucky tries to help sketchy people escape evil terrorist groups"
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
it was not just "bucky has a cat now"
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/7E5QgV0sK1vWnRndqFEMzn.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
this is also a pretty boring interpretation of their dynamic, bring back bucky trying to impress sam but also since when is sam like "nooo shooting nazis (?), anything but that"
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/XIc9QU1YSTGY32pDYHnOJ.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
what eight year old would have known about the winter soldier?
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
like, okay, it worked slightly differently in the films because reasons, but when they brought bucky back from the dead c. 2005 there was a detailed, specific timeline
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
one of those things was that the winter soldier project was decommissioned in the 80s, which makes sense in terms of real-world geopolitics (to the degree any comic book plot makes sense in terms of real-world geopolitics)
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago @Edit 5 years ago
but most importantly it keeps this whole thing squarely before marvel year 0/fantastic four #1
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
which is actually important because it explains why no one ever encountered him before that specific arc
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago @Edit 5 years ago
which is important because if everyone actually knows about this famous cold war assassin who is also out and running around decades after the collapse of the soviet union and dissolution of the kgb who also is transparently Bucky Barnes, like, why did no one tell Steve for like, oh, 7 years or so
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
the original story had an explanation for that, why do you continually fuck that up, marvel
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
also it's a weird line in the context of this particular story, which operates on the premise that bucky is a sketchy guy operating under a conditional pardon vs a beloved superhero eight year olds look up to
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
anyway also this comic namechecks misty knight without actually giving us misty knight
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
in conclusion, I hate that I'm still this invested in bucky barnes continuity
Megan
5 years ago
metal arm buddies!
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
I demand on panel appearance by Misty Knight
go rimbaud
5 years ago
metal arm buddies who sam dated a few years ago
Megan
5 years ago
I want to know where alpine went
Megan
5 years ago
since they clearly didn't leave her with misty
Megan
5 years ago
I'm also still wondering how redwing became a vampire bird but y'know
Megan
5 years ago
marvel
Megan
5 years ago
(who can apparently break metal with his call?)
go rimbaud
5 years ago
it was probably something in the 80s or 90s
go rimbaud
5 years ago
there's been some nonsense that's happened with redwing
Megan
5 years ago
I mean he seemed normal in pet avengers, not that pet avengers is real continuity
kuja defender
5 years ago
baron blood bit redwing during all-new captain america
Megan
5 years ago
oh ty
kuja defender
5 years ago
so 2015ish
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
according to this comic misty and sam are still dating
Megan
5 years ago
yeah they were still dating during sam's book l...ast year? two years ago?
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
follow-up question: is spitfire still a vampire
Megan
5 years ago
although sam got jealous of blade iirc
Megan
5 years ago
(idk when he made out with jane foster)
go rimbaud
5 years ago
if spitfire is showing up anywhere, why would she not be a vampire
go rimbaud
5 years ago
i feel like that's a key component in her modern canon
go rimbaud
5 years ago
and yeah it was back when sam was still cap that misty started dating, but i had no idea what the status on that was after i stopped reading it
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/1IME1o0OZKI4dt4gk4vVuT.png
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
as of this comic, released today, they are still dating
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
and the vampire stuff wasn't mentioned at all in the latest invaders comic which tbf used jackie only sparingly
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
it was really just a captain britain and mi-13 thing, but given how she doesn't like, get used many places
go rimbaud
5 years ago
i'll admit most of my familiarity with her is through that
go rimbaud
5 years ago
but i was also under the impression she doesn't get a lot of play except there and invaders
go rimbaud
5 years ago
and i cannot imagine any reason to read invaders
go rimbaud
5 years ago
though i think she had a oneshot some time in the last ten years
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
that was by paul cornell and very tied into mi-13
go rimbaud
5 years ago
yeah that tracks
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
anyway the latest volume of invaders is about how professor xavier is a jerk
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
and also, is basically a namor comic
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
anyway the vampire thing is weird because she got bit in 1942, and then never displayed vampiric powers until that one run
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
and like, she also aged (and later de-aged via a totally separate plot mechanism)
ᚠᚱᛖᛃᚨ
5 years ago
so, it was a random character direction, if not a bad one.
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