so you're telling me

that a creepy little guy stole some gold from a river, turned it into a ring, used it to enslave his people, can also turn invisible, has the ring subsequently stolen from him, gods and men go to war over this ring when really the only logical solution is to just return the ring to the river where it came from

and that the story thereafter takes about fifteen hours to tell, and lasts several generations

so basically

you're telling me that tolkien fucking ripped off wagner

i mean i'm not like reading too much into this am i

this is literally the lord of the rings but more norse. there's elves and dwarves and shit! cause it's norse!

wagner was pulling a lot from old norse stuff, though

well yeah

i don't think there was a ring involved tho

like in the actual edda and such

i don't think the ring is literal mythology is it?

"was tolkien pulling from wagner" is a slapfight that's been going on forever

IS IT REALLY

and there's a magic ring in one of the eddas i'm p. sure

Andvaranaut - Wikipedia

so the ring IS a retelling of norse myth

okay but like

it's a bunch of different stuff stitched together iirc

the idea that you can draw basically a straight line from norse mythos to fucking tolkien is absolutely buck wild

i mean everyone talks about tolkien from a very british standpoint

this is blowing my mind

oh ofc there's a huge fucking wikipedia article on it

J. R. R. Tolkien's influences - Wikipedia

oh my god

this is just so fascinating

also i know i said "rip off" before but that's meant sarcastically, all writers basically just write stories that have been written before and put new spins on it

also god this production of the ring that i'm watching.....idk how other productions are but the opera singers are having so much fucking fun

there's a lot of puns and a lot of sarcasm

and the guy who's playing loge, his face acting is amazing

also albreich's singer managing to hold a note while he's crawling around on the stage pretending to clamber on slippery rocks

loge: i will create problems on purpose

also i know this thing is fifteen hours, i'm only watching rhinegold today

fasolt and fafner are basically mafia enforcers

//crashes through the wall thanks to you showing up in Expo's SMP plurk// I remember reading the prose Edda years ago and being like "man all these names look really famil- Gandalf?!"

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