please let him brood in peace, he's not used to this much positive social interaction
you're going to make him faint
/puts up a 'No Brooding Allowed' sign/
Don't make me tap the sign...
im sorry you can't put that sign up without an absolute majority from a general assembly with a quorum of minimum twenty-five
you are in violation of the community bylaws, two more strikes and you have to answer to the community at the next meeting
Elle: I'm a cat so laws don't apply to me
Elle: what're you gonna do, arrest a cat?
i'm sorry, he is not a dumpster fire of a person, so he's stuck with kerrigan
he actually is the biggest dumpster fire imaginable, however, he has mastered the art of keeping the lid closed
oh, personal problems are fine, but he's not a cruel or callous asshole yet
which is extremely rare in starcraft
kerrigan's never known so many un-horrible people at once
oh wow she and raistlin have that in common
people are coming over to talk to him? to be. nice?????
the only reason elle hasn't approached raistlin yet is because she's pretty sure he'd actively resent her if she tried, and she doesn't need to deal with that right now
messy bitches are fine, they just have to have hearts of gold
and she's a telepath so your goth act can't fool her
i don't think he would as long as she wasn't like, pushy, which she doesn't seem like the kind of person to be. he's jsut really, really not used to positive social interaction and really, really used to absolutely every conversation being a fight for his life
elle is only as pushy as it's productive for her to be, general. she tries, at least
but he's actually a pretty non-confrontational person. snapping at cammie was a stress reaction
u should come be sincere at him, it really confuses him
awww <3 she def will, then
looking forward to raistlin's existential crisis as everyone is at least decent to him
he only snaps at people if he thinks they're attacking him, and he does have that hypersensitive trauma thing where you see attacks that aren't there sometimes, but he also doesn't have the fucked up history with you guys that he has with his "friends and family" and he's generally good with people in that case
because they come into the conversation without the scapegoat/golden child dynamic he's the scapegoat of
no assumptions about him as a person
bracing himself for having to argue in favor of saving orphans
like everyone in his entire town and social group uses him as a scapegoat
speechless when everyone just assumes they're gonna save the orphans
it would be ott except the narrative thinks they're right, because it was written by a mormon
Elle: I would physically fight anyone here who doesn't want to save the orphans
so naturally the disabled character is only disabled because of his character flaw of resenting the limitations disability places on his life, because the only disability is a bad attitude!!! and anyway disability means god doesn't like you
it is difficult to overstate how horrible everyone in dragonlance except for raistlin is
hi welcome to the raistlin ted talk
and the occasional supporting character
it's an absolute craphole morally insane completely unselfaware setting and I needed to save my son from it
the conversatin with zita was like
zita: u should app raistlin
me: they would break him in like five minutes
zita: yes and that would be funny
kadath: in this house we love and respect gully dwarves
narrative: haha gully dwarves are dumb and stinky
gully dwarves: consistently the most loyal and decent group in the setting
i mean, that's half the reason I apped Dean, lol
I wanted to see more about Need and different kinds of people and if I gotta write her myself so be it
gotta finish my read to see if kitiara is rescuable
oh also while im here
hematite do you know sawbones' player? we should ask if she wants to Arrive
debating if actually scooping up sawbones and plopping her in front of raistlin would be funny enough to have happen
i mean, it's only fair after Tommy got dropped on him
pops my head in bonjour, lemme read back on this plurk so i know what's happening, but the answer is Probably Yes
i have read and the answer is Yes
i'm gonna do a top thread because the level of which Sawbones Does Not Care is potentially hilarious on a wider scale
hematite: also literally pick her up, she'll be offended but it's funny 2 me
very excite for raistlin to learn about dragon age

it's bad
they can compare notes about whose setting is dumber
ok should i tag sawbones' toplevel and then we move to a threeway with raistlin or
just scoops her up like shrek and princess fiona god bless
im enjoying all these goofy ass antics amidst the extremely serious debate
I’m at work so I think Need is stuck outside somewhere so she can monitor the Psychic Energy in case anything shows up, which, she’s paranoid and convinced is a possibility.
if she wants to chime in she can use raistlin;'s eyes and ears
god i think the funniest thing about this is how it's like, every party debate with a really dedicated lawful good roleplayer ever
rolled up into a ball of nonsense
i have so many threads going on in this log and none of them have to do with debating leadership
they do involve organizing though
guts: i am not the one in charge but i'm also not not the one in charge
Stacia: I'm sure I could come up with a reason not to save the orphans, but those would be some really weird circumstances.
owls_in_moss stacia we are not asking for a justification on why we hsouldn't save the orphans. we're saving the orphans
i am not exaggerating when i say in dragonlance there would be a debate, or at least a paragraph of narrative outlining reasons to save the orphans
Elle: the reasons for saving the orphans are as follows:
1. we're saving the fucking orphans
2. I will eat you
like the audience needs to be convinced that these heroes should save the orphans
additionally, none of these reasons would be "it's the right thing to do"
things raistlin has been called spooky, evil, ambitious, and/or Ominous for saying
Stacia: Okay, but technically everyone whose parents are dead is an orphan, so you're going to be rescuing some grown adults
1. "We cannot run from the evil that is coming. Terrifying though it is, we must stand and fight. it will be terrible, and it will be deadly, but the chance of victory is better than the certainty of defeat."
2. "We should not betray the dwarves sheltering our civilian refugees for the vague possibility of a possible payoff. because it would be dumb."
"Also cannibalism is gross."
one character nurses raistlin when he's without his meds for a while in terrible conditions, and the book provides a paragraph with the following reasons:
1. she respects him (because he is a magic-user)
2. "her innate need to help people weaker than herself"
3. brownie points with her crush, raistlin's brother
and 3. "actually, assisting a goal of elven commandos in freeing the human slaves to distract the baddies and cover the evacuation of elven civilians is a great way to accomplish multiple goals"
they are so stupid and so awful
she's gonna get Love Interest Disease
ya know thedas is an unmitigated trash fire, but like at least everybody involved in the stories doesn't have to be like... convinced to do the right thing
unless you're actively doing an evil run and then it's still greater good
"kerrigan didn't shit on me a single time, what the hell"
she didn't threatn to kill him, or physically force him to remain in a conversation he didn't want to have anymore?
what is this... new world....
first she saves my life, then she doesn't lord it over me?
where the telenovela lady gif
i was literally about to use it anyway, lol
wait until someone asks him if they can grab something for him at starbucks while they're out
"i don't know, he's just been rocking back and forth staring at nothing for an hour"
he can process it halfway with need bc it’s like ah yes if she does x nice thing for me she can directly feel good
this is self interest and fine
(love that Dan's on a first-name basis to Kerrigan)
Elle: oh, I can turn make every nice thing I do in your direction sound like a selfish request, and when you finally realize that i'm being nice, it'll be too late!
that is basically the key
give him a reason that it benefits him and you, and he'll go along
pur altruism... never heard of her. you're just pitying me, and condescending to me, and want me to be small and miserable and dependant on you for scraps -
are you gonna bring him to raistlin's thread or should I post in there
someone really needs to read him the riot act about insulting them at some point
"STOP IMPUGNING MY MOTIVES"
"I didn't know motives could be pugn it's reflex!!!"
he is a bit of a delicate lad at the moment so maybe give him a chance to bond with people before he gets confronted with his cognitive errors and biases
hey team, let's all go back to krynn and beat the shit out of sturm brightblade and tanis half-elven!
okay, i want to tag raistlin's top-level. What's something that, if someone (not naming names) had been stalking watching him for a while, they would notice he needs? like, supplies or food or something.
the more people decide they want cr with him the harder I rub together my little goblin hands thinking about a plot where we all do a journey to the center of raistlin's mind to kick the shit out of fisto
kicking the shit out of things is guts berserk's favorite activity
: Don’t forget that council, I have words for them and they’re not ‘Goddess bless’.:
yesss I want this beating up the bad lich
just that one office space scene
for those just joining us, fisto is fistandantiulus, an evil lich who raistlin's teachers allowed to posses him because they figured he deserved it for being so ambitious and sly. raistlin doesn't know he's in there
except instead of the printer, it's fisto
fisto is making his disbaility worse - before the possession he could even walk across a room without breaking down - and influencing him towards cruelty, selfishness, and greed
need has not mentioned it yet bc she’s like, I have time, and wants to catch him first, but she is very sus
and yet he somehow manages to be the least douchey member of the group
i already knew the gaia folk would want to beat up what's basically a wyrm spirit but it's even better if at least one is genuinely invested and outraged on more than jsut the principle
stacia better invite kerrigan
field trip to raistlin's soul!
raistlin's soul:
Elle: i am going to lay on top of you in cat form until you accept your fate
the gang finding fisto inside raistlin's soul
Belatedly, Lloyd wants to not only save the orphans but adopt them, he is held up by the whole chosen ones on a quest thing though DAMMIT
lol is he using need’s terminology
Herb and knife healing
this introduction is the absolute best possible way they could have met honestly
ftr sword grandma 100% approves of both scooping and indignation and also of the desire to have revenge for it
it’s very relatable
sawbones like hi good to meet you, let's get to work
raistlin appreciates this
also
kadath i just realized i never finished raistlin and kerrigan's tdm thread. i am shamed for a thousand years. do you wanna just hash something out now or do the whole posting routine?
i wouldn't mind a few more tags to get raist out of the tree
then we can invoke the "oops, got teleported" mechanic
im working on four hours of sleep and the last of my adrenaline is running out so gimme a day or two
i think its very funny that kerrigan and raist are vibin'
That is just the worst evening he ever has except for how many people are like I will help you
also pls rest when you have the chance
the only reason kerrigan's not paranoid about people the way he is is that she can tell what their motives are