Weniki i can live with it for practice, and it's the same weight as my nicer yarn so that's really useful. And I did count them, cause i was trying to make gauge. So this is yarn for 10x10cm 14st 20row and i got 13st 18row BUT i'm using 8mm needles instead of the recommended 6mm needles so.... i'd say i actually got pretty perf for my first try of purl