Jessie
3 years ago
[Race salt] Man sometimes people say things casually and most likely out of blithe innocence and I want to call all my friends of color into a huddle to be like "did. did you see that? should we say something?"
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Jessie
3 years ago
just a double take like "did that. did that really?"
Jessie
3 years ago
"I know you didn't mean it the way it sounded but do I have the energy to talk to you about how you sounded just now"
Jessie
3 years ago
like is there a name for a microaggression that isn't aggressive
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technically a microaggression by definition is unintended /socialworker
Jessie
3 years ago
true but like
Jessie
3 years ago
I guess it's a matter of figuring out when it's worth the energy of doing more than just rolling your eyes about it
Jessie
3 years ago
like. I COULD do more than cutting eyes, but do I have the energy to deal with the conversation that comes after?
Jessie
3 years ago
(no, I do not)
Jessie
3 years ago
this is why I need a WoC huddle (LOL)
Jessie
3 years ago
"guys what do you think of this. IS IT WORTH THE EFFORT"
you know what this situation needs this situation needs the very specific superpower of being able to summon a random bystander who goes "i'm sorry, but I couldn't help but overhear-" and then flawlessly explains the exact issue with the comment before leaving so
you get the satisfaction of hearing your piece said but also get to decide depending on the "offending" person's reaction whether you want to casually agree with the bystander or abstain
inadequate tits
3 years ago
the downside of that is whether or not it's worth it is highly subjective i bet lmao. maybe have a discord for huddles?
Jessie
3 years ago
fishrepairs: (LOL) man ngl I have a designated white man friend offline who does exactly that for me
Jessie
3 years ago
he's tall and well-spoken and sometimes when someone is trying to slam a door in my face, I tell my white friend what's happening and he says exactly the same thing I did but gets an "oh, come right this way"
Jessie
3 years ago
and he is happy to use his privilege to benefit me (LOL)
i mean i also hate it but i love it
and yes I do imagine you carrying this person around in a pokeball and releasing him dramatically my brain is useful thanks for asking
Jessie
3 years ago
harder to navigate that in an online situation where people have all studied critical race theory and should already know all these things
Jessie
3 years ago
o no that emote is adorable
I’m married to a white man and he frequently uses his white guy powers for good. He’s not cis so they occasionally falter but they’re pretty fantastic when available on call
BUT OOF, I bet it is. possibly moreso because you couldn't even mitigate in Best Non-Confrontational Tone Of Voice (TM) if you wanted to bother
Jessie
3 years ago
I'm talking to someone about this in a more private space and we started reflecting on the privilege of being able to walk into a space and not have a single person ask you where you're from
Jessie
3 years ago
and even now I say that knowing that it will be read as a commentary about immigration or the contrast of someone brown among a room full of white people, not realizing how often it happens among communities of color
Jessie
3 years ago
there's just so much to unpack and it feels like a violation to see someone just leaving the suitcase closed
Jessie
3 years ago
idk I don't want to be melodramatic about it either
It sounds very tough to talk about or explain, especially because it's nothing dramatic or obvious, just a small thing with A Lot To Unpack
Jessie
3 years ago
yeah just like "you said this thing and don't appreciate the MILES OF SENSITIVE ISSUES you've just trampled over"
Jessie
3 years ago
and you're going to continue not realizing that's a sensitive issue because I'm Too Tired
Jessie
3 years ago
I guess that's where the "stay in your lane" shorthand came from?
Jessie
3 years ago
but sometimes that gets used to inorganically shut down conversations that should be had for other reasons
Red Panda Jean
3 years ago
so much energy I just don't have. And especially can't afford the mental frustration of having it shut down when, truly, miles and miles of baggage here.
Jessie
3 years ago
yeah. yeah, there's a lot of people who'll jump at the chance to shut down someone who speaks up in these spaces
Jessie
3 years ago
like there's a whole circle of concerned white women in dwrp who said some pretty nasty things to me when I didn't agree with their reductive takes and like. there was a time in my life when I was willing to have those fights? but now I just go into these situations like "am I willing to let this become the next three hours of my life if it turns combative"
Jessie
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
or worse, if I say something and then the person I'm trying to gently nudge overreacts and is like "SUDDEN MOOD DROP SORRY INTERNET IM GOING TO GO DIVE INTO MY DEPRESSION NOW"
Jessie
3 years ago
^ very that
Red Panda Jean
3 years ago
Pretty much.
Jessie
3 years ago
so as someone who has studied this and has tried to unpack the problem of race as it relates to white women's tears, I feel like there's a kind of responsibility there
Jessie
3 years ago
if not me, then who should navigate the minefield? but also, I'm not always in the mood to work through other people's white fragility
☼ zinnia
3 years ago
all of this is a heck of a mood
Jessie
3 years ago
so instead I just ruminate casually for hours
Jessie
3 years ago
and the person who said the thing continues not thinking that anything hurtful was said
Jessie
3 years ago
guardblade: hello regular consultant in my unofficial brown person huddle (LOL)
space dragons
3 years ago
as a white person I'd want to know bc I try to educate myself but sometimes I'm sure I accidentally step in it, but I also am chill enough to go "oh no I'm sorry" and let that be it.
Jessie
3 years ago
that's always the risk, right? 50/50 shot depending on the person, the situation, the person's mood relative to the alignment of the stars...
Jessie
3 years ago
the thing that spawned this plurk was something that someone had already put some time and emotional energy into
space dragons
3 years ago
ugh yeah not likely to go great unless you're super close to them tbh
Jessie
3 years ago
yeah
Jessie
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
and maybe part of this was lowkey me hoping that someone who had just been talking about a race thing might look at their timeline and go "oh my ethnic friend is upset about this thing I was just talking about" and make the connections? which in itself is probably avoidant behavior
Jessie
3 years ago
like communication should be direct, right? have a problem with that person, communicate with that person, problem solved
Jessie
3 years ago
but these conversations don't happen in a vacuum and it takes a lot of vulnerability to tell someone "hey, today you said some hurtful things and I don't think you understand the weight of it"
Jessie
3 years ago
just quietly stews in my own feelings I guess
MRS SEPHIROTH
3 years ago
I know this feeling
spider-woman.
3 years ago
i wish i'd seen this sooner, but i am here for any talkings if you need.
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