try to keep track of the time needed for building it.

good idea!

building now!

post times to first and any subsequent errors (i expect a few, its beta ebuilds, on pre-alpha software!)

first bizarre error, svn checkout of oxygen-icons doesn't want to complete :-/

sudo emerge kde-4.3 356.56s user 75.10s system 52% cpu 13:49.56 total

done dealing with bad internet connection or whatever it is for svn checkout of oxygen-icons, commencing further futility

hi fellow gentooer

since that initial problem, its been chugging along pretty well

82 of 241 packages built

built it yesterday, has been having SVN work mostly ok, even with GCC4.4 pre-releases and QT-4.9999

good! now what does "mostly" ok mean?

I had some weirdness with one package fucking up that I can't work out how to fix, koffice failed its balls off.

had a few initial confusions with Akonadi, but its working now

ah i wondered if you meant that it wasn't running right

kdeplasma-addons wont build and neither will pykde4

but then again, python2.6 has made a fucking mess of everything

you all sound like a bunch of gentoo fags

dev-python/*gnome/gtk-suff* ==> fucked

Hlagh , fuck you,

isn't in the mood for a "use debian family" discussion

I've had lots of those, one more is not wanted

really? i didn't have an issue at all when i recently went to python 2.6, just ran python-updater after emerging it

its probably because I build with tests by default, and tests failing I consider "fucked"

ah i haven't enabled them because the one time i did the test suite in portage itself failed

things like SSH/SSL/Glibc I *always* want those tests passing before they get installed

but then again, I'm using paludis, and I can enable/disable tests on a per-package per-version/version-range, per-repository, per slot basis

i ended up getting annoyed with paludis after a while, not exactly able to explain why

yeah, that happened to me the first time, the second time I stuck like glue

if you're using gentoo, I recommend using the perl overlay thats on git now

git.overlays.gentoo.org/... # Do note, I'm contributing

github.com/kentfredric/p... # If you want additions I've made WorkForMe that haven't yet been merged

oh i've been using that for a while now for perl 5.10

once i finish fixing some of the bugs in Math::Farnsworth (slowly now!) i plan on finishing the serialization code for its state

then your computer has my name on it, .... multiple times. And thats a weird thing to experience for me.

, so that i can make a nice GUI app that can be used for doing maths!

i'll then have to bug you to get Math::Farnsworth added to the overlay!

you can just create your own fork of the root overlay and then add it yourself

and when its working

tell tove in #gentoo-perl

and he'll consider it

but that said, I probably have more experience with writing ebuilds

more than probable

how much time it took to build KDE?

down to 73 of 85 (had a few restarts that i had to do, and one package i still need to get installed, kalazium)

"I see."

kde-4.3 just finished, now doing quick sanity check with revdep-rebuild

nothing serious (just some plasmoids that have been broken a while that i haven't fixed yet)

prelink is better at finding broken dependencies

a script that calls prelink and traces the library path to tell me what library is missing and what librarires are affected

neat, i'll have to look that up!

got a link about it?

paste.plurk.com/show/286...

its a bit brutal

contains a full tree walker , and some experiment to get around IPC:pen3 sucking bitchballs trying to handle STDERR and STDOUT in parallel

paste.plurk.com/show/287... # outputs somehting like this, except colourised

also note: this code has an entire event-loop system in it >_>

now on kde 4.3 prealpha/alpha/beta/whatever the hell it is

ok first comment... i can't seem to get it to add a new panel

hasn't got a problem there

the only problem I have is panel controls seem to be not "stay on top" as needed

so after bringing them up, I have to click-to-focus them, but thats likely focus-stealing preventions fault

had problems with apps stealing focus

plasma certainly seems ALOT snappier

try qt apps with '--graphicssystem raster' occasionally, it can make things faster than hardware accel

so far everything seems to FEEL snappier, but if i can't add my panel on the right i'm gonna go nuts

at the moment since i can't figure out any way to debug it, i'm trying to figure out the plasma configuration files!

there figured it out and manually added it

well you can still crash it when dragging widgets from panels to desktop

ah!

it certainly seems to run better