the continuity is weird and i do think we need a dick grayson movie, but i get why they would want to not like... start from the very beginning. because god am i sick of movies about batman just starting out before he even had a family

honestly the live action bruce i can most believe taking in an eight year old circus acrobat is

definitely battinson

in general i think superhero cinematic universes are kind of a blight on cinema but that hasn't stopped some of them from being good individually, and i'm cautiously optimistic about that one.

exactly

i'm hoping thats in the batman sequel because i think the idea of battinson having to deal with an eight year old energetic acrobat would be funny

I honestly think that any Robin would be a good Robin for Bruce to have off the beginning except for like Tim.

yeah

i've seen people say jason is too reliant on dick's origins but i don't really think so. the white knight continuity has jason as the first robin and dick as the second and his arc still follows the same basic outline

Yeah. I'd agree with that. Not to mention like under the red hood removes the connections dick had to jason's origin story and it basically plays out the same

yeah

any robin works. there's a lot of fanmade aus scrambling the orders of the robins and i do think they could work with that.

any robin except tim because tim is the one most deeply connected to the idea of robin as a legacy.

i think the robin most important to under the red hood is actually tim lmao, and he's not really utilized in either the comic or the movie

Yeah definitely cautiously optimistic about this. Definitely good to see them going in more of a Batfam direction rather than being stuck with loner Batman forever

Yeah, I'm keeping an open mind about the projects and trying not to jump to any conclusions. I think Gunn is good at taking stuff people didn't give a damn about before and then making it really interesting

Like, how many people gave a damn about Guardians of the Galaxy or Peacemaker before he showed up?

the batfamily isn't even something people don't care about, it's just that the warner bros executives are convinced that it's always going to bomb because of this weird image robin used to have as this annoying goofy tagalong.

It's funny. I watched Batman Forever last night and for all it's flaws, that take on Dick wasn't bad and imo, better than what Nolan did

everything is better than what nolan did

the nolanverse is like.

The animated movies aren't as shy about using a Robin but then again, it's a different audience. I agree it would be nice if executives stop thinking of Robin as a goofy side character

they're decent movies but abysmal adaptations of batman and the cultural footprint they've left on batman and superheroes as a whole has been deeply tiring

I can never take Christian Bale's Batman voice seriously

any Robin works ...Stephanie

that's who i was thinking of yeah

stephanie deserves her own robin movie

her reasons for being robin would be entirely different but like, i would accept it

I join you in cautious optimism

and Battinson with a Robin would be good because Robert Pattinson understands the inherent silly/serious tension of Batman and respects it

i know the balance of that movie didn't work for everyone and it's like... yeah it's not exactly my preferred tone for the material either, at points, but

it Gets it in a way i don't think any of the others have

YEAH at this point i'm fine with them just starting from here at this point

yeah the greatest strength of The Batman was that unlike many other recent screen adaptations of Batman it was not embarrassed to be about Batman, vigilante crime fighter who dresses up as a bat

the batman was like, grim and dark but it still made fun of itself and pokes holes in the mythos that things like the nolanverse or snyder flanderized to hell. year two batman isn't my favourite version of him, i think he works best as someone older and more jaded and experienced but still stubbornly refusing to change. and most importantly, a father figure

a good one? no not really. but one all the same.

nods. I mostly liked The Patman for what it was and how it ended up with Bruce realizing he could do hope and not just fear, which felt like A Step away from grimdark and towards potential Batfam

yeah exactly

and i think with comic bruce even at his worst thats still something that is more important to what batman is supposed to be than vengeance