god what is that image quality

I feel like Damian should be over more

I feel like all of these could be jason and damian

I mean

Damian's literally killed people even after being Robin, IIRC?

also the whole "secret prison" deal.

damian's killed people yeah thats not the part that hurts me

damian gets better except writers keep being like LOL WHAT IF

it's tim's placement....... he's never killed anyone, why is he so high on the pro murder scale.... i know he's come very close but like, so has steph, so has dick and especially bruce.

also yeah lol

I think it's tim and also bruce's vibes, I don't think they're any more likely to kill than dick or steph but they have a vibe

tho honestly it's more like

i don't conceptually hate the idea of damian relapsing but it is wild how they just constantly forget all his existing friendships.

paranoia-induced hikkikomori

uh tim should be "could be a genocidal dictator, if he wanted, but chooses corporate domination instead."

jason should be destined to become a priest

guy who makes worrying comments

person who knows exactly what they'd do if they were a genocidal dictator but also understands why that's wrong on a more than visceral/moral level

very funny to me that we've had dark future damian dark future batman dark alternate universe dick dark future tim but then there's just jason who is out here murdering people on the regular

that's bruce

tim is the bat most likely to tell the villain what they're doing wrong

i mean justice lords bruce is very much like "well what if i just lobotomized all my rogues. i'm not technically killing them. life = hacked."

tim the most likely to grade your villainy despite hating school

tim has bruce's exact brand of ocd

tim has like

all of bruce's worst qualities

Man. The multiple times they did an "evil future Tim" storyline really warps some things

they are both 'guy in the friend group you are worried about' but like

technically when bruce kills this happens

it's not that they're any more likely to do murder. it's that you might think they're missing for a year but they're just in the batcave

yeah exactly

wHaT iF BaTmAn kILlEd PeOpLe.......

a new and exciting idea nobody has ever done before

every time someone says batman should just kill the joker I picture jason todd in a mustache

like his stupid fake matches malone guy that just had a mustache

HAHA

god

yeah

i had an argument with someone who presented dick as agreeing with jason that batman should kill the joker and i aged forty years

i feel like tim is the guy who knows exactly how he would turn into a genocidal dictator, because he has that self-awareness, but also like...actively knows how to avoid it too because unlike bruce he recognizes friends are important to mental health (most of the time).

dont argue with people about dc

yeah you'd think i'd learn that by now. my favorite character is damian wayne the level of stupid thrown at me on the regular is astonishing 😭

bruce just SAYS he doesn't have friends like

bruce is extremely dramatic

bruce also recognizes that he just never says it out loud to their faces

I don't have friends just people I hang out with all the time who I would take a bullet for

I just adopt anyone who reminds me of myself as a kid

tim is like. "oh time to spiral (ghosts all his friends)". which bruce also does but he never ghosted alfred at least and he knows superman is coming for his ass.

thats tim at his worst though, normally he's a bit better than that

yeah like the problem is geoff johns decided to wreck all the yj kids at the same time bc he hates fun

yeah tim's friends would have been there if half of them weren't dead and the others full of trauma

yep

and that's when I gave up on dc.......

damian's friends would have been there for his own more recent breakdown if dc didn't forget they existed...

shoutout to maya ducard my baby girl

bruce is just lucky his bffs are the biggest deals

dc likes killing off or disappearing the bat-fam's friends right when they are spiraling the most.

yeppp

you'll just get a break with a writer who understands teen heroes and then they'll hit you over the head with some guy who thinks this is smallville

raven is one of my favorite characters of all time, she has not been written well for decades

i got the monkey's paw of them bringing my fave back after faking us out and then they pulled Sanctuary.

ah wally...

this chart is just objectively wrong

plurk img compression said MORE CRUNCH

also yeah this chart is a mess

the originally posted version was a serious case of

i think this is also oversimplifying cass a little even if like. yes she Is the hardest line in the sand one about this

why am i not surprised it's using wfa art of everyone though, as much as that has its moments its pretty much just fanon batfam

trying to remember that one comic where she basically snapped and went to kill someone after seven seconds of being fed an illusion designed to force her to kill.

yeah.

and she does genuinely agonize with the question of whether her whole stance is... tenable or even good, at points, esp towards the end of v1

it's like.......doing an oversimplified goofy meme about something that's not really simple or goofy

Yo I came in here wondering wtf I had missed in the WFA world because these sure are Choices

that is the biggest joke because using WFA is like none of these people are in the right spot on this list except jason because wfa slides everyone WAY down the willing to murder spectrum than they already are.

the only way wfa tim is becoming a genocidal dictator is to control a country where he can harvest all the coffee for himself

clockworkbrain: cass also does kill shiva at the end of v1. like they retconned it to be part of deathstroke's whole mind control bullshit but at the time she did just straight up come to the conclusion that she has to kill her.

i think rebirth kinda.... simplified her way of thinking into something she never struggles with or doubts. she's a lot nicer and like... less arrogant and dismissive in rebirth generally

also like. steph straight up was planning on murdering her dad

also... again.... tim has never actually killed anyone

I didn't know they retconned that into mind control.

I just figured that she knew Shiva would eventually dip into the lazarus pit they were fighting over

Which was why she hung the body over the pit rather than, y'know. Letting it lie.

well following v1 they had her take over the league of shadows

bc slade drugged her

Ah, I do like to forget Beechen's stuff, ahaha

yep........

that was months later during the OYL gap i thought

not pre-v1 ending

oh huh

well i ignore it anyway