I would honestly love to play out something where Finn actually addresses the fact that he is the reincarnation of a comet that hit earth. Idk which of my CR it would be best for him to open up to about that but
This event almost seems TAILOR MADE for him to talk about it, it feels like I should take advantage!!
cosmology: he really goes through it in season 6
Finn "maybe if I make out with lots of girls I'll feel something" Mertens
I'm realizing that Finn had actually told like, very few people any facts about his actual life. He's given people dribs and drabs, but he hasn't told anyone how he lost his arm or much else going on with him right now. And he very specifically isn't talking to Jake about it, for reasons.
He mostly has just talked about the stuff he's more comfortable with, like the fact that he is adopted and was raised away from humans. More sharing facts than how he feels about those facts. And not much about how interacting with his bio Dad messed with him and continues to mess with him
Fern is another can of worms he needs to talk about, but that's seriously fresh so it's coming out a lot slower and will probably continue to
That's the kind of thing his regret is set on undoing, though I think he's going to eventually realize his formal chosen "regret" doesn't go far enough.
And that he would need to undo the creation of Finn Sword in the first place, which also means letting Prismo stay dead, which would ultimately would mean the Lich would've been able to kill reality in every timeline and dimension because Prismo never would've warned them.... THIS IS WHY FIX-IT REALITY WISH MAGIC NEVER WORKS MAN
It he doesn't know that. Being 17 means thinking you can game the system if you want it hard enough.
I keep wanting to have kaz ask about the arm actually...
maybe even DURING THIS EVENT since he doesn't have the robo arm
It hasn't come up much, probably out of politeness. But I do genuinely think he would want to talk about it if somebody asked? The only person in canon who isn't immediately shoving prosthetics in his face the moment it happens is Jake, who also has the philosophy of letting Finn feel his arm situation out kind of on his own.
Contrast that with PB, who wants to force him to kind of speed run through confronting all his trauma in the most efficient way possible and basically doing the processing FOR him
Neither are like, WRONG PER SE, imo Jake has the better strategy but both still kinda fail. Jake fails by treating him maybe like too much of an adult and PB fails by treating him as too much of a child.
He's never really talked that much about it beyond just "I am angry and I want to rip my Dad's arm off for revenge" --> "I'm too tired to be angry anymore, now I've burned out and don't feel anything at all"
kicks up heels. I will totally wildcard into your top level something for this tonight if u want
PLEASE!!!! THAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY. Maybe around his birthday? I feel like that's a nice reflective time.
CAN DO which is when, incidentally
8th night! It would be the evening of the day kazuma gets fished out of mud
I'm so glad. Arm talkssss
and if anyone wants to talk to the boy about comet stuff lemme know, I feel like that could be JUICY with everything going on
OH luthien should also talk to him about the arm bc her husband lost his arm and has the epithet "camlost" aka empty-hand
idk if she'd be good for comet talks but at least lotr canon is so wild she would probably not even find it too difficult to grasp the concept of him having been a comet
celen: omg!!!! I love that! He's going without his prosthetic on this mission so I feel like it's a prime time for it to come up. Good opportunity to learn more about her hubby too
And yeah no, LOTR and adventure time both have that "people just casually talking to the many faces of the flawed gods" vibe
Less LOTR and more. The silmarillion, which works out LMAO
now I will have to decide how much lingering humiliation kazuma feels about the mud thing
to properly set the tone here
Finn also got stuck in the mud elsewhere so he won't judge. maybe they can be on the opposite end of the party as where Jake and Yujin are hanging out
Yeah I meant to have Felix confront Finn about his arm because he's upset with the kid fir being dumb on this mission... but I kinda set up the thread where he's a lot calmer than I expected lol.
He might still get there. I haven't figured out his next tag yet anyway.
Plus talking about the crappy situation of the mission in general too.
(I want them to do adoption talk one day now too since it came up but idk when it'll come up again. But maybe Finn can find out why it pisses Felix off so much one day...)
LMAO yeah! Like, I think Finn was pretty hurt by the way Felix reacted so I don't think he'd probably bring it up again on his own, just because of how badly it went but I do think it would be interesting if Felix offered it up
Being vulnerable with Felix is DICEY AND SELDOM GOES WELL FOR FINN LMAO but maybe if Felix was vulnerable with him first he would try again
I think he naturally shunts his own stuff to the side with people who either don't feel like they'll receive it well or with people who seem to have loads of their own problems. It's just a more comfortable and natural thing for him to want to listen and be their rock (even if they don't want him to be FFFF)
There are some notable exceptions tho. He's going through that with WWX right now after leaning on him like crazy, now being more aware that Oh No He Has Emotions And Pain Too and that ability to be that vulnerable is different now.
HE'S SLOWLY MATURING, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS HEALTHY EMOTIONAL PROCESSING OVER HERE
Making me emo in the club with this shit
Awwww. That's good! Good going, Finn! You'll learn!
Also this TikTok is making me SAD!!! Finn’s ‘empty inside’ arc is soooooo
love that boy. son-shaped. deserves to be happy.
Felix, however, not so much. We may need another incentive for him to bring that up. He does not like to talk about his past on the deep level.
He's having a hard enough time doing his sentimental personal goal this mission as it is. XD
But maybe one day we'll figure something out.
(Not being vulnerable to Felix is good thing, Finn. We don't blame you. You're doing the right thing and you'll feel better about it later lol.)
he's tried so many times at this point!! Felix just don't have tolerance for him when he gets soul search and weird. Maybe because the way he goes about it.
Finn's recursive no worries spiral of plausible deniability LMAO
AisuYoukai: if it helps, I can have Finn ask Felix more things! Like I said, he tends to kind of pick up on vibes and try to help. The adoption thing is tricky because it's so personal to Finn, and he got the big "good for you" shut down but there are other breadcrumbs Felix has been dropping
Maybe Finn can ask why Felix was acting so strangely when he introduced his brother and we can build to it from there? He is CONCERNED FOR SURE
Awww boy. You are concerned with the wrong person. (It's cute and I love him for trying.)
But yeah re: tried to be vulnerable with Felix in the past... it's literally just hard to be that way with Felix. He's one of those men that thinks weakness is not tolerable so he can't be sentimental and shit.
ONE DAY SOMEONE WILL PICK UP ON HIS PARTNER AND ASK HIM A QUESTION and he'll just. go quiet. Or get really upset. Either way it'll be a Thing. And I look forward to it.
...I thought of that because of the sentimental thing. That's his one weakness. (That he inwardly admits to existing. He wished it didn't.)
Yeah, that makes sense! That's how I've been playing it. Eventually someone reacts by actively belittling you enough times that you learn they are not the guy who can see you sweat.
It I can have Finn ask him about his partner! I know Felix has mentioned him a few times under his breath now and then.
I also meant to say that unfortunately Finn has a disadvantage in talking to Felix because Finn's so eccentric and I thiiink I mentioned it earlier but that's sorta a trigger for him these days.
Maybe in our current thread?
So Felix immediately hates Finn despite the fact that Finn has done nothing wrong but exist.
(Though Felix is maybe getting attached despite this??? Their infirmary thread was cute...)
It's funny I don't see Finn as all that eccentric aside from his slang, he's just full blown teenage boy LMAO
But I get what you mean. He makes jokes and gets in over his head and elbows his way into adult spaces.
Yeah, I'm sorry Finn. (Also I'm slow sorry phone typing at work.) Felix is def that guy you don't let see you sweating. I like the way you put that. Perfect.
He has! Finn could def pick up on that. He also got a sentimental "partner" from Felix so it'd make sense for him to eventually ask about it. (And make sense he hasn't yet because it was during bad time, he had to stop and connect the dots.)
sure thing! I'll have him bring it up soon and get your guy his trauma juice.
I am still very invested in Finn getting to talk about his comet boy biz with someone mO_Om
Lol yeah that kid-ness is basically what I mean. It's more Felix's perspective than accurate description. Essentially his dumb friendiness reminds him of the idiots he hates in canon.
As for current thread... we can squeeze it in there if it goes that way. I know the plan was to talk about the mission/whether to save the people or concentrate on the orb, and I was gonna have Felix bring up the arm (but also I thought I'd do it in reverse order so the muse always has the last laugh)
If the arm gets brought up it'll either be a disaster or Felix will mention someone else from his past so that's fun too.
Squeeze in partner talk? I can save it for another thread if you prefer!
/laughing. Not trying to say no! Just trying to predict my muse... which is not easy anyway and we can change things if we prefer.
Nah, I'm just trying to make sure I don't overstuff anything! We can see what happens in the thread itself, but I'll make sure to keep it in my back pocket to bring up Felix's partner namedropping if it feels natural.
I can almost always find a way to do it
Ahahaha! You are perfect.
Finn seems like a character where it's easy to do that with too.
I need to backread a bit but just skimming the beginning
I really need to work up to having Ryu be more nosy about Finn
that's like. his specialty.
I think he's been kinda preoccupied with his own shit and settling in but.
he's in a pretty good place to start being nosy now.
(It could also come by proxy if Felix mentions the guy with a prosthetic because that was his other partner. Ugh my merc feels. I was lit rewatching those eps last night.)
AisuYoukai: haha yeah, he deflects all his issues into just trying to help other people. Great for building amazing CR with damaged individuals, less great for getting him to open up. But I wouldn't play him if I didn't find the challenge of that extremely fun.
I feel like Finn is the annoying gnat of the TGAA cast, buzzing around all up in their business, Ryu's gotta get the magnifying glass out
He's a good boy. You play him so well! Perfectly! I'm enjoying him.
No prob, I'm happy to assist in getting your man his moments! I know the struggle with closed off characters.
HE WILL GET THAT DANG MAGNIFYING GLASS OUT SO HELP HIM!!!
I need to figure out how/under what circumstances he makes the connection between the weirdo stretchy dog in the infirmary and him being Finn's brother
but knowing that alone will have him like. "hold up a sec"
being a lawyer in AA basically means being both a detective and also a therapist sometimes LMAO
Hahaha. Go Ryu! Sleuth it up!
he would also hardcore be into talking to Finn about like, regret stuff, and why he thinks it's kind of a bad idea. Like he wouldn't lecture him about it but he's sort of curious about what the other crews motivations are
ok not sort of curious.... VERY...
Right now I think the only person whose regret he knows (and he doesn't really know SPECIFICS he just knows the guy was reacting guiltily about it) is Kazuma. And. I'd be curious in having him engage with Finn who, from what I understand, has a regret that's a lot more like. Tragic
and less. "i made a bunch of stupid choices and now I am being tempted by the big reset button to make them not happen"
You were looking to tag Jake, right? You should do the 8.5 prompt on my top level! It’s post muddy-Kazuma so Ryu would have a reason to approach + plus it’s literally Finn’s b-day party so the connection is right there.
And yeah Finn’s regret is his Fern Murder
safelybeds: YEAH THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING literally the thing that stopped me yesterday (and I really should've just asked about it) was I was like "wait has he seen jake again or heard from yujin or kazuma about the finn-jake connection already. OR does he still not know..."
Things happened very fast and Jake has not been there long + Ryu has been preoccupied. Have the realization happen onscreen instead of off, more fun that way!
kazuma doesn't even know the finn-jake connection yet so I vote for whatever is funniest and most confusing