I am REALLY liking the classes...they are intensely challenging, and very efficient. They’re also making me very accountable so i feel like I’m getting a better work out than I was on my own doing strict bodybuilding stuff

Which requires a lot more personal discipline than i have been able to muster for the past few months

Also i like the community aspect! the instructors are nice and its great to have someone there to help you with form!

I ran into a person from my gym at the coffee shop today and it was neat! I like feeling like i know people around me

I have a few things that I’m like....this isnt really for me,or I really would not do this in this way if it wasn’t for class

Kipping? I’m fully aware that there’s tons of controversy around kipping and IMO its one of those things that ultimately should fall to “does this work for me and my body?”

But i do personally believe you should be able to do a strict pull up before getting too deep into kipping, and I am NOT THERE

One of my goals in this whole process is a strict pull ups! They’re hard af, and I just dont have the raw upper body strength to do one right now. But in the meantime, i dont really feel super comfortable working on kipping

it feels like running before you learn how to walk?

MAYBE I WILL TALK TO THE INSTRUCTOR ABOUT IT. they are pretty flexible! I jsut get nervous

I don’t want to come across like i don’t think it’s GOOD

I would love to someday work on kipping! But a strict pull up is my more immediate goal for a variety of reasons

Everyone’s got their own goals!

I’m sure they would. Kipping is there to keep things moving quickly when strict is too slow

Yeah! And this is like....a CrossFit informed gym, rather than a CrossFit gym so I don’t think they’re like...too invested in us learning the like, competitive moveset unless that’s what we personally would like to do

Tho tbh I think the controversy around kipping is a lot of /limp wrist Jack off motion

Oh yeah for sure...it’s definitely like, the same as ANYTHING, a minority of bad instructors/practitioners getting pointed to, when there’s obviously FAR MORE people doing it correctly/safely

Like, you can also look online a see 1000 bad videos of squatting too, but no one is out here saying squatting is bad

People arguing about how THIER lifty lift sport is the best one

Yeah it just fulfills a different purpose of preserving energy for long metcons where strict would burn you out. Like they fulfill different purposes

Yeah, exactly

The end goal is very important in why someone is doing a movement!

But I’m sure coaches would let you do like banded strictif it was safe

And I think that gets ignored when people are throwing around blanket accusations that any given move is “”bad””

Yeah, like todays WOD was a circuit of 1 hang clean, 3 pull ups, 5 box jumps per minute. So it wasn’t really about speed, just like, consistency

We weren’t trying to do as many as we could in a row or anything

Oh yeah it makes sense there for sure

Just be like “in lower volume workouts can I not kip to practice” I don’t think that’s even disagreeing

Yeah, very true!

ok I had to google this but it is honestly so wild to me that this is considered a desirable thing

bc this was considered cheating for me

when I was in gymnastics

these use momentum vs controlled strength

which is why we weren't allowed

Yeah, that’s a lot of the controversy...WHICH LIKE, I DONT WANT TO WEIGH IN ON TOO MUCH BECAUSE. It’s a thing where like...in CF competitions, its a legal move! And that’s fine! The point of CrossFit is speed and work done

BUT YEAH that is why most good trainers who understand safe biomechanics will say you should

it just seems unwise unless someone can already do a regular pull-up

Be able to do strct pull-ups FIRST, so you have the ability to control this movement

yeah that makes sense!

exactly yeah

done correctly, it isn't relying on momentum I assume

Like, not being able to do a strict pull up, but also having very good body awareness, I can FEEL that i don’t currently have the muscular strength to control this when I attempt it

but no we'd have to do like 20 pullups and if anyone of us (about 12 of us) dropped or did this, we had to start over 😂

so I saw this and went EXCUSE ME

lmao

YEAH. which is probably a big place that the controversy comes from...its a rare move that’s like, EXCLUSIVE to CF. No other strength or conditioning sports use it

And it usually is something not allowed in those sports

interestingly, it does borrow from a gymnastics move that isn't a kip

it borrows from a giant, the hollow + arch movement is what creates the momentum in that move

Yeah, Iike, I’ve seen gymnastics specialists talk about the RIGHT way to do this, and that’s EXACTLY what it resembles

yeah, it's what we call tapping! or tap swinging

A correct hollow body and a correct arch....both of whcih require requisite strength !

yeah!

sorry sorry off topic haha I just saw this and went huh???

No, no, makes sense! Also, it’s intersting to hear that perspective!