the locked tomb

Teen titans (iteration of choice EXCEPT Teen Titans Go!)

Yellowjackets

trying to think of a hot locked tomb take i have that i haven't expressed yet is hard damn

umineko

i will come back to the locked tomb once i think of one that isn't something we been knew

darkersolstice: i have very hot takes about this subject

first off. comic versions of the characters are all better. even beast boy. even terra. even slade. i have complaints about all three of those characters and how they're treated by the story but i think even though the authorial intent behind all three of those in the comics is absolutely rancid, they're still more interesting to me because the comics were

allowed to touch on subjects and explore themes that the cartoons... weren't. like they were never going to make beast boy kind of a horrible spiteful creep who resents everyone around him and is more than a little bit of an incel and they were never going to be able to properly explore tara's whole... deal.

don't get me wrong the cartoon is fantastic but it does irritate me whenever people talk about everything it did with the characters and act like it was all an objective improvement. as good as the show is and as good as cartoon raven is, it is responsible for the increasingly bland goth raven characterization we've been getting for decades when in the

original run she was one of the most complex and multifaceted characters in comic books as a medium. and she wasn't!!! fucking!!!! goth!!!!!!

she's the antichrist who grew up into a pacifist vegetarian who loves her friends but forcibly isolates herself from them due to a tremendous amount of guilt over her own existence leading her to believe that any form of emotional expression could kill everyone she loves. she sings to woodland animals and mind controls wally west into being in love with her.

she's good.

my second take is that beast boy/raven is a garbage ship that mostly involves diluting them down to their teen titans go equivalents in terms of depth, and the fact that now in the comics raven's entire character revolves around being beast boy's girlfriend makes me so mad

fuck tom taylor all my homies hate tom taylor.

crabgirl: misty/nat >>> lottie/nat 😔

i think my actual hot take about yellowjackets is that i do not think there is any actual debate over whether the supernatural exists or not in this setting. it very plainly and clearly fucking does, they are all just in different levels of denial about it. when shauna says "there is no it! it was only us!" and lottie says "is there a difference?" she summed

it up nicely

is there a forest entity or is it just a manifestation of the ugliness and the demons that were already very much a part of all of them. both is my answer! the entity is them and the entity is a part of them but the forest is very clearly haunted by something that came Before.

man beast boy/raven seems like such a boring ship lkjskd like even in the cartoon i was most into her dynamic with starfire

i'm a raven/terra truther

she and kory are cute though

ectoplasmfear: I genuinely am confused about how anyone would think this is entirely mundane at this point

Re: Yellowjackets

NO YEAH

but if you go on the reddit or even the tumblr tag you will see so many people say "haha you're STUPID if you think the supernatural is actually REAL"

like okay taissa turner

No joke I thought Taissa was just gonna end up being a werewolf when I first watched the show. I don’t think you can explain all of that shit with just illness or mercury poisoning or whatever people say it is

she's certainly something

it was a coincidence she sleepwalked in the pattern of the forest symbol hope that helps

goodluckmodes: umineko hot takes.....

i have. a couple. first of all.

i think umineko and higurashi are linked in lots of ways that are lost if you refuse to engage one when talking about the other. obviously umineko was after higurashi but still going back and reading higurashi from the perspective of having read umineko, a lot of the building blocks are fundamentally similar.

and i think it's impossible to truly understand characters like lambdadelta or bernkastel without first understanding that they are protagonists from this other story twisted and corrupted into monsters. i've seen a lot of people on plurk who are resistant to the idea that lambdadelta is satoko but like. lambdadelta talks about events that happened to satoko

in the first person

more SPECIFIC to umineko though

i think if you go through all of umineko and find yourself completely unable or unwilling to empathize with specific characters, then you've kind of failed the test that umineko is fundamentally about. you've chosen the trick ending instead of the magic ending and all that. like, all the adults in umineko are fucking evil people to varying extents but none

to the extent that they cross over into being completely unsympathetic strawmen or into actually good people. they're all greedy selfish capitalists who have the capacity for murder, and i think part of the challenge of umineko is trying to understand them anyway. and i'm even including kinzo here because obviously kinzo is DISGUSTING but he's also. battler.

like they draw on that parallel a lot, between fantasy battler and mystery kinzo.

and i think another case of this is that like, erika is a shadow to ange's character as much as she is the audience insert of the most annoying people ever. and erika has a moment where she's like "rosa never gave a shit about maria" and both rosa and maria denied this and she couldn't understand why maria would choose to believe her mother loved her. which

is like... very understandable! but every action taken on any game board is something that the character is capable of being, that's a fundamental rule. even nice grandpa kinzo or good parent rosa or a natsuhi who doesn't kill a baby or an eva that sincerely loves ange.

or on the flip side any of the various fragments where the other parents were the culprits. those are all just as real as the actual canon culprits.

erika is my favorite umineko character but yeah, youre not supposed to walk away from umineko thinking that her way of seeing things is correct

rosa is an awful mother and yeah, maria should have been taken in by social services after the amount of neglect and abuse rosa literally demonstrates in front of a social worker in episode 4... but the tragedy of the whole thing is that rosa does in fact love maria despite this

saying that rosa never gave a shit about maria isn't the truth of that situation, and its why erika loses spectacularly in that fight

Mass Effect

wailords: she loved maria, and she was a victim too once, just like ange. just like maria. just like sayo. this be the verse and all that.

erika doesn't understand because she hates these people. they're nothing but stage actors in a story that she disdains. the only characters she has any amount of fondness for on the mystery side are ange and battler and even then that's tempered with contempt and spite.

the idea that the person who treated you awfully actually loved you too, that maybe the cycle of abuse is a bit more complicated than the cold truth of abuse, it pisses her the fuck off because it tells her that she's wrong. it's sacrilege against the sanctity of the truth as a concept because who cares what someone felt, what they DID matters more.

erika's perspective is obviously insane but to some extent i think it's reasonable because she is a facet of ange who doesn't want any of these pretty illusions telling her that her grandpa who sexually abused his own daughter really loved his grandkids all along, she doesn't want this version of her aunt that was always on her side.

mynameislegion: i haven't actually played mass effect!

Damn.

cant forget the "logic battle" erika and dlanor has about erika's own past love and the acknowledgement again being hammered that yeah, her boyfriend wronged her... but there was evidence he had in fact loved her

she just absolutely refuses to accept an answer that means having to admit that yeah, she does have feelings about this subject that are not just about the truth of the matter

as well as, you know, having allowed the one bad experience in her life to allow her to believe that love, in any form, is an obfuscation

god i love erika so much

she's so fucking delusional

and i think her contradiction of the story's key message is actually a valid rebuttal because to some extent yeah love can obscure the truth and make you see things that aren't really there. like how much does kinzo's own tragedy matter when juxtaposed with the sheer harm he caused. how much do rosa or eva or kyrie or rudolf deserve "love" after what they've

done

terriblepurpose: locked tomb hot take.

nona is my favorite narrator and protagonist of the three.

You know. This take is persuasive.

she isn't my favorite character but often with gideon and harrow i'm more endeared to them when they aren't the protagonists. nona has a very wonderful narration voice that i really appreciate and she's also very cute

and very like

atmospheric in how she builds on the tension with her growing nonaness

She's also very keyed into interpersonal observations

yeah!

AND she has the most cosmic horror...she can do it all...