sweet zombie jesus!

the analogies they form to try and explain god...

told to imagine that he had created ants... and that the ants could not understand me

difficult to understand, much in the same way god is difficult to understand

countered with "yes, but the ants can still measure me, they can interact with me, I am real..."

scientific arguments for gods are amusing because those lines of inquiry are so antithetical to the idea of faith

and are generally easily dismissed

the /b/ macro that broke the back of his faith ...

the problem with analogies is they only ever work in part, not in full, and trying to map all parts of an analogies will always fail

I used to piss off my comp-sci lecturer like this by fucking up his metaphors

living breathing dinosaurs: want pix plx

see, I just raped your metaphor ^_^

knows that ... but the people that form the metaphors generally don't ... which is what makes it fun.

also maintains that the hole in that metaphor is not outside the scope of where the metaphor should hold...

god in that system... which is fair...

notes that he can't just exclude the "does he exist?" question just because it's inconvieniant

the thing is although we can interact with the ants, I would believe they're generally unaware of our existence on a conscious level.

I think ants are more like highly advanced robots that just execute programming code

of course, this trait doesn't scale up becuase we *are* reasonably concious

notes that ants, unlike vertebrates, mostly merely react to stimuli, so the analogue to believers is apt

purrs at the emergent behaviours of many ants following the same, simple rules