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Oroville Dam live updates: Spillway failing; evacuations ordered ...

BREAKING: Marysville, Yuba County evacuated as Oroville spillway ...

Oroville normally looks like:


Oroville today:

Thanks. I have relatives up in the area

for Sacramento people: Flood Depth and Evacuation

"here's an infographic w/ the potentially affected area. Also: the dam itself is ok, it's the spillway that's affected"

image of the spillway labeled "near failure"

from the other plurk: CA - DWR (@CA_DWR) | Twitter Department of Water twitter

... I know this is horrible but it is also pretty.

Horripretty.

Oh yikes D:

Goddamn. Stay safe, ya'll.

Update off the twitter feed. The dam itself should be okay.

good, good!

Christ, that's terrifying

Oh, thank god. I was worried that the dam itself was also under duress...

From what I've read, the main concern is that erosion on the unfortified emergency spillway (which is in essence just a hillside) could cause a breach that would let water through that way.

HOWEVER, it's not as bad as the main structure failing - the dam itself is in good condition.

Also the rate of erosion on the emergency spillway is a bit slower than they had feared. So they're far from out of the woods, but it's not as bad as 'total dam failure imminent'.

oh damn, that's three hours from my hometown

looks like the actual spillway is damaged, though, so that'll probably be a hefty repair cost...

Oh yeah, it's got a huge sinkhole in it.

this winter's weather has really taken a toll.

They have to juggle preventing the emergency spillway from eroding and not putting too much water through the main one which will make the sinkhole worse.

It is good that the reservoirs are filled again though.

Just dont go on the twitter hashtag. it's effing disgusting.

lol yup, just stick to the official twitter for your sanity

What's going on in the hashtag?

Probably political/jokes/etc.

Same usual business

Ah. I don't use twitter much

Better to just stick to official twitters to avoid stupidity or arguments about politics, if you want genuine news updates.

Yeaaah twitter is as big as cesspool as any unfortunately.

^^^^ it's political bullshit and people saying sick things

twitter trolls don't like California for obvious reasons

KCRA is a good regional news news Twitter and the main account seems idiocy free; don't read the comments

I saw some 'God hates California and we know why' things on facebook
and i recalled why reading them was a bad idea

thank you so much for this!!

Because we're a blue state...? Sorry, I don't pay much attention to social media and the like

So having hashtags hate on a state going thru an emergency is kind of surprising for me.

Update: I'm seeing some reports that the lake level has dropped enough that the emergency spillway may taper off in a few hours - sounds like the erosion wasn't as bad as they'd feared.

It's just trolls who love to piss people off, they exist for any big situation because they're massive assholes. There was a lot of that during Hurricane Katrina, too. Best to just focus on the emergency info and not let it distract you.

Not in the clear yet, but if the emergency spillway stops running they can shore it up and assess the damage.

I did hear they've been working to release water at other spillways iirc, so it's good that the water level's going down

Yeah, they bumped up the main spillway's output to lessen the load on the emergency one.

Course, that probably means the main one's going to be in worse condition but if it prevents a failure....

When we had a dam scare here, it wasn't so frightening because the water levels were very low. Full dams are the scary part more than the damage to the spillway.

The higher repair cost will be worth it.

They should hopefully be able to maintain it now

And the dam itself is in good condition.

Yeah

absolutely, better than the possibility of lives and homes being swept away for sure

Probably left emergency maintenance on the wayside since it's never had to be used before now

Yup. I'm glad they issued the evacuation when they did.

"We don't know how long we really have so we're going to say an hour to get people out fast." <- several hours later and it hasn't failed yet but people are getting out and that's good.

Yes, definitely. People will likely be upset if they're dragged right back, but it's better than alternatives.

They're having a press conference in about 25 min

Yeah.

I suspect they'll be kept on alert for evacuation though, more storms are due to roll in later in the week and that could cause problems.

Yeah, even down here in Kern County we've had a lot more rain than usual, I think. It's usually a dried out husk down here

Yeah, preeeetty much! I saw WATER in the kern river in a spot where it is usually really dead and dry

IT WAS.... NEW...

I hadn't seen it with that much water in years

I hope it sticks around! Just... not as much as it is right now.

Riverside holy shit

I'm glad it seems to be getting better though, the spillway and all that.

it's green there for once?

There's a little too much water at the moment.

it means no ruined homes and people and pets ;3;

/grew up in moreno valley

you know there's been a lot of rain when riverside of all places turns green

I need to drive to San Diego one of these days to visit former roomies and se all this green

Although tbf Santa Clarita has been greener than usual too

I was up in the Santa Rosa area last spring and summer, it was much greener than I'd seen it in a while.

/has family in Cali despite living on the east coast

there's been standing water here

large?? pools???

I love Californian's collective awe in here.

listen man when I moved to sacramento over a decade ago my first impression was 'THIS IS..... GREEN..... WHY IS IT SO GREEN???"

this is the socal perspective on green what the hell is this it's beautiful and bizarre.

CAN I TOUCH IT......?

I have not alas

WHY NO HILLS.....

i feel like I'd be all and like 'i feel like I am going to get sucked into the horizon TAKE ME AWAY FROM HERE'

me in chicago was basically feeling claustrophobic because there weren't any hills just BUILDINGS

The concept of flatlands is incredibly foreign to me

I was born in the flatland and moved out here ten years ago

I had to get used to hills

well i lived in a small city so there were usually houses in the way

LiveCopter 3 surveys Oroville auxiliary spillway

here's some footage of it!

scary shit

/lives tucked into valleys in the Appalachians
I know this 'what is flat???' feel

I'm from wv, and anytime I'm in western Ohio, I get twitchy and freaked out because where am I where are my mountains?

Lol

the year+ I lived in Texas I was constantly disoriented because I grew up with a fuckoff huge mountain immediately east of me

I hope everyone will be ok

I grew up in West Texas, where we had nothing but endless prairies as far as the eye could see. Coming out to the hill country has left me boggling. This is almost mountainous to me! >_>

But yeah, hopefully everyone is ok.

to clarify the spillway "near failure" isn't the spectacular waterfally one up there! That one's damaged (massive sinkhole) but they're still trying to use it as much as they can.

the "near failure" one is the auxiliary spillway, aka the channel to the left of the main spillway, aka "let it run down the hill and hope for the best"

it's the first time they've ever had to use the auxiliary spillway, and there was more erosion around the top than they'd expected there to be

"failure" would mean that the concrete lip at the top gets undermined and falls out

yikes

and it goes without saying that the plant in the main dam is cranking as hard as it can, I'm sure

that actually wasn't as bad as I thought. I think I've seen the Connecticut as high as that. but that wasn't when the spillway failed, was it? just reaching capacity

Well that water trailing down the mountain isn't supposed to be doing that, ahaha.

Mostly the Big Concern is that the dam has too much water in it and the failure was a real possibility. Not of the dam wall but of the spillway. Iirc.

Also from what I read the hole in the emergency spillway is a big problem too, not just the one overflowing

There is reported erosion that may cause a failure

this one kinda outlines it well

So nothing was completely failed, it was an evacuation in the possibility that it could fail -- the risk lowered the more they drained the lake though! So that's good.

sorry if my reply is ugly and scattered, I'm mobile rn

I'd also worry about mudslides. even if there isn't a huge flood, all that water going into the ground...

Things I think are best labeled "precarious" until they repair both spillways while being really cautious about any changes in weather since storms are still a potential threat

Oh yeah, they reported a ton of mud. That is definitely a scary concern...!!

It was just a really good idea to get people outta there in the meanwhile, yikes.

good thing this isn't happening in the Northeast. we're getting all the wet weather

We're getting a lot of wet weather out here in Cali, too

a much wetter than average winter, after several years of severe drought

but yeah, in this case mudslides aren't the issue exactly, but there is reason to be concerned about erosion, especially since the area directly downriver from the dam sees a lot of salmon spawning activity

this is going to seriously alter the riverbed and silt in a bunch of the gravel beds the fish need for their eggs

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I saw they evacuated the fry from a fish hatchery, I thought that was really sweet

I am a midwest native living in San Diego, I remember when I first moved here I was shocked that the highways had flowers growing in the middle and all the palm trees

then the drought hit and everything became brown

and now, I'm shocked again about how green everything is again

this has been a really wet winter in so cal, so it must be even wetter in norcal

a little something to note about the weather patterns of california, most storm systems in winter come through from the north west and curve around, with southern edges hitting SD only after they hit the north

what's happens in a lot of cases is the storms wring themselves out in northern parts of california and so cal doesn't get any or very little rain

so, if san diego is feeling a bit dumped on by this winter rain, nor cal must feel like noah

Gosh yeah, there have been way more flash flood warnings here in southern central California

Madera actually evacuated for floods in a lot of areas too, iirc.

It's been bonkers

I live near Mojave desert and our garage flooded LMFAOOO

my local library keeps flooding, they've closed out their backroom for that very reason

As a norcal person, I can confirm most days this winter have had persistent and heavy rain.

we've had dry winters before, esp during the drought, but this is a very wet one

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